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[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have consistently been open, vocal supporters of Israel

Harris is after calling Israel repulsive: https://lemmy.ml/post/14210216

I'm not trying to defend FG, but why are you lying?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jesus man. You're going to lie in plain view while saying I'm lying? Are you Israeli or something?

He called actions repulsive, not Israel. And only the actions of a single individual. FFS.

He supports Israel and openly says so. He condemns the Palestinian resistance to its genocide.

Martin went there and famously pointed to a hole in a ceiling and said nothing about the mass murder until very recently.

They still haven't expelled the ambassador.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah what about it? Six months later they caved to pressure after supporting the genocide. So what?

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These links are almost a decade old. What do they have to say about current government or political parties?

Use your words.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

what is your claim? and how did you come to believe it?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At this point I count four outstanding questions you're desperately trying to dodge.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I take it you concede the point then by refusing to engage in good faith discussion.

All government parties, and more, support the Israel and its genocide. Fact.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is no discutandum: you've just said easily-falsifiable things and I have falsified them easily. You're saying that they vocally support it, when there's abundant reporting on their opposing it and helping South Africa oppose it.

Have you ever been to Ireland? Have you ever opened an Irish newspaper?

If I say the moon is made of Cashel Blue, I wouldn't expect someone to engage in some detailed "good faith" rebuttal.

You can't just say obvious mistruths like "All government parties, and more, support the Israel and its genocide. Fact." and then expect some sort of "good faith discussion".

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

There is no discutandum

You can't even spell the word. You're no good at this.

you’ve just said easily-falsifiable things and I have falsified them easily

Only in your mind. I invite you to debate in any of the stories I'm posting here. Not just claiming you falsified anything or asking where people come from. Address the subject matter.

Here's another.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

All government parties, and more, support the Israel and its genocide. Fact.

Then why do they vocally oppose it, support South Africa's genocide case, and move to recognising the Palestinian state?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

They don't. They're all very vocal about "Israel's", "right to exist".

It took them over 6 months of genocide to support SA's genocide case and only did so after the ICJ backed it.

They've repeatedly opposed recognising the Palestinian state.

Would you like to know more?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Thanks for reminding me about all of these supports of Israel by the government. I'll keep posting them now.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no discussion to be had: you said something easily falsifiable and I falsified it easily.

I can't come in saying Guinness is pink and demand to be taken seriously.

Have you ever been to Ireland? Have you ever opened an Irish newspaper?

https://web.archive.org/web/20231103141040/https://www.reuters.com/world/irish-pm-says-israel-actions-gaza-resemble-something-approaching-revenge-2023-11-03/

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/fully-disproportionate-irelands-fm-slams-israels-destruction-of-gaza/

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There’s no discussion to be had: you said something easily falsifiable and I falsified it easily.

This never happened man. You made no effort to back up your absurd claim.

Have you ever been to Ireland? Have you ever opened an Irish newspaper?

LOL what? I'm the Liberties man. Not that it makes any difference to anything at all. Where are you from yank?

What's the point of your links? Do you have any supporting argument at all? Why are you afraid to debate?

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why are you afraid to debate?

How could there be a "debate"?? There's nothing to argue, you've said Guinness is pink and I've provided more than a score of links showing the well-reported plain facts.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ireland has done nothing meaningful or brave for the victims of "Israel's" genocide. This is a fact.

gg yank.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When were they "vocal" in their "support" for Israel?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Every time they support "Israel's" "right to exist".

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

after supporting the genocide

Stop lying you weirdo

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

What's happening in this picture?