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  • Opening statements began in Donald Trump's hush-money trial on Monday. 
  • Trump faces 34 felony counts for falsifying business records in the historic case.
  • "This case is about a criminal conspiracy and a coverup," ADA Matthew Colangelo said.

Opening arguments in Donald Trump's historic criminal trial got underway on Monday with a prosecutor describing the case as being about a "criminal conspiracy," while a defense attorney for the former president likened hush-money payments to "democracy."

"This case is about a criminal conspiracy and a coverup," Assistant District Attorney Matthew Colangelo told the 12-person Manhattan jury in the hush-money trial.

Prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office allege Trump illegally falsified business records by covering up a $130,000 hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just a quick note how is it consensual? How is a sexual relationship with that vast of a power differential truly consensual? An intern versus the most powerful man in the world? People need to stop talking about that as if they were star-crossed lovers it's fucking gross.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Consent is when two adults agree.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Consent is NOT when your boss implies or promises or conditions something.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

If you want to ignore literally any context, sure.

edit: here's the context:

Consent is when two adults freely agree.

Any relationship where one person has power over the other, either physically (like using a weapon) or non-physically (like a boss and his/her subordinate) cannot be said to be "freely consensual."

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

This implies that the party with less power couldn't have initiated the relationship. It implies that the attraction couldn't have been mutual. It implies that 2 people can't have an adult interaction where turning down the more powerful party instantly turns into recriminations. It implies that people can't be anything but cardboard cuttouts.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

I agree with this in principle, but if you include wealth as power, it gets very messy. "Would you date Jeff Bezos?" "Sure!" "Would you date Jeff Bezos if he wasn't a billionaire?" "Well..." Sure, he could use that money to coerce people into sleeping with him, but him expressing interest in a person, them turning him down, and him just moving on doesn't sound like coercion to me.

And, yes, I think Clinton crossed that line, simply because he could fire her if she turned him down.