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Some of the 49 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard by the state of Florida are now able to legally work in the United States and have temporary protections from deportation — because they are considered victims of a potential crime, their attorney says.

The migrants are eligible for these protections because they applied for a special kind of visa meant for crime victims who are helping law enforcement, after they said they were tricked into taking charter flights from San Antonio to Massachusetts with false promises of jobs and other aid, said Rachel Self, an attorney for the migrants.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

... so, even though all of these migrants were subjected to the same treatment, only some of them are getting legal protection?

Also, were all of these migrants told about the opportunity to apply for this special kind of visa? Or did the cops just pick and choose their favorites?

It's good to hear some people are getting visas, but allowing a criminally broken immigration system to just keep ruining peoples' lives and only fixing it for a small handful of them isn't justice.

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.social 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm dumb but this seems to mean that not everyone applied. You can't get the thing if you don't apply for the thing.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty hard to apply for the thing if you're not told about it and given the application. Were they all told about it?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

God forbid anything good happen to anyone if it's not everyone. Just let a good thing happen without screeching that it's not absolutely, unobtainably perfect. Geez. Some of you all are just absolutely exhausting.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like we're rescuing people from a natural disaster or something out of our control here, we're stopping an unjust government action from being taken against some people but not others. The only thing stopping us from extending this same humane treatment to all of them is political indifference.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You know what? I fucken agree. Fuck the bureaucracy. All these people deserve the same treatment.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

What if one of them kicked your cat?

I agree with you in principle, but without knowing the story of every individual, we simply don't know.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound..." Malcolm-X

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With respect to Mr. X, that's still a six-inch reduction to the amount of "knife in back". That's better than you were before. We just need to not let it get pushed back in and allow things to heal.

I'm so sick of people shitting all over incremental progress, constantly demanding perfection, and wondering why nothing ever gets done.

Perfect cannot be the enemy of good.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nobody is shitting on incremental progress.

Rather, they are rightfully asking "when do we get the rest? Why is it only this increment, when it could be more?"

You do not get a pat on the back and a congratulations for doing less than what is expected. You get a "that's nice, now finish the job"

EDIT: if your 12yo beats the shit out of another kid every day at school, but today they only shoved a kid into a wall instead of kicking their ass, you don't take them out for ice cream for "incremental improvement".