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[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

not well-versed enough in leftist theory or practice to actually engage with most of Lemmy.

The problem is that if your political world view requires actual study in order to understand and promote, you're never going to get anywhere when it comes to affecting real change. Most humans don't give a shit. You have to give them something simple and easy to make the core of their political identity. In our society capitalism has a head start because it's baked into the school system, but you don't get the luxury of forcing everyone to learn how you economic system works.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that if your political world view requires actual study in order to understand and promote, you're never going to get anywhere when it comes to affecting real change.

Two war-torn feudal backwaters transformed themselves into spacefaring superpowers in the span of a single human lifetime. History has shown that mass political education is possible and effective. I mean hell, we all have to be instructed as kids about the dangers of fire, and that works. I don't believe that educating people in Marxism is some sisyphean task any more than educating people in math. I think I can and has been done.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Do you control the public education system? Because until you do, you have to work with the educational background of the population you're given, not the one you want.

Edit: the replies to this comment that I can see are so nonsensical or make so many wrong assumptions that it's impossible to to even know where to start with them. I'll just leave my reaction at "????". If you, dear reader, want to explain to those people why their statements make no sense, I applaud your effort and the essay it will require.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If many millions of actual illiterate peasants who grew up with no school system at all can do it multiple times on different continents, it can absolutely be done here.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

To be honest, people who didn't go to school were less propagandized against Marxism.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Obviously you do, and obviously the Bolsheviks and Maoists and the Cuban communists successfully did.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

It really doesn't require much study to understand and promote. You can go as deep as you like, but the underlying principles are straightforward and rather obvious, like class dynamics.

Additionally, Capitalism doesn't have any "edge" over Socialism - it's in a steady state of decline, has been declining, and appears to continue to decline. Capitalism cannot be permanent, it does not have a head start, and there is no need to force everyone to understand how Socialism works.

That's really my point, you have these knee-jerk reactions because you are unfamiliar with the topics at hand, and do not appear to have tried to understand them further. The inevitability of Capitalism's decline means you don't need to be forced to understand Socialism by anyone, you'll either learn on your own or will ride the tide.

You probably won't agree with what I have said, but that's more a choice you personally make, on whether to engage or disengage, and that's fine.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Damn, imagine needing to know things to do shit?