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An Israeli missile has hit Iran, two US officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Iranian state media is reporting that flights have been suspended over several cities, according to Associated Press.

Iran has been on high alert after Israel said it would respond to an Iranian attack against it on Saturday night

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Measured retaliation leads to measured retaliation leads to measured retaliation...

It's fucking hard but Isreal suffered minimally from Iran's bullshit aggression - Netanyahu could "be the bigger man" without losing any face.

Real leaders - real manly men - real strong people of any stripe - those are the people who have the strength to forgive and compromise.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel bombed their embassy first, full stop. What are you on about? Iran had a right to defend itself.

Bibi, who has never shown a modicum of restraint when there’s potential for bloodshed, isn’t going to change course until the US forces him to by withholding funding. Considering how Zionist Biden and 2/3 of Congress are, that ain’t happening, so buckle up for some real shit “leadership,” Jack.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Was that first? The embassy bombing was certainly before Iran's counter attack but if you're searching for justification then it's not like Iran and Isreal were buddies before this. Iran has repeatedly funded Hezbollah launching rockets into Isreal and funded the Houthi rebels attacking shipping.

My point was that constantly retaliating is an unhealthy cycle and your take away was that "But actually it's okay if it's in retaliation." Wut.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

And Bibi funded Hamas, his (now realized) end-goal being to destabilize the region and provide cover for further Israeli violence and land grabs from the indigenous people.

I agree with you on tit-for-tat bringing about undesirable results, but you lost me on “Iran’s bullshit aggression.” Israel is 6mo+ in all-out genocidal warfare on innocent Palestinian civilians, and still maintains this stems from their “right to defend themselves.” Iran on the other hand exercised immense restraint, coordinated with western powers, and executed a highly telegraphed counter-offensive focused exclusively on military targets in Israel as an overly nice way to say “please don’t bomb our stuff.” In this way I think Iran’s counter-attack was in fact beyond justified. Unless you meant it was bullshit in that it was entirely orchestrated, but I doubt that was your intent.

Netenyahu, being the absolute child that he is, had to strike again anyway. This is in fact unjustified and unprovoked, but to use your own terminology it appears Iran will be the “bigger man” and doesn’t plan on further hostile action. Again highly coordinated with the west, in order to walk on eggshells around the unhinged Israeli government.

The fact of the matter is this: Bibi is a far-right war mongering zealot who needs to be deposed immediately. The US is despicable for providing him cover the way they have. Despite who’s in charge in Israel, they at least offer their citizens basic social safety nets like universal healthcare and paid family leave. America doesn’t have these things, yet it can afford to send Israel 10s of billions to continue murdering brown children?! Israel are warmongers, and America is shameful for backing them.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 months ago

Bombing consulates and embassies is a nazi move.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Iran's aggression"

Another day another banger from sh.itjust.works

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Iran was aggressive in their retaliation - how the fuck else would you describe launching rockets into another country?

Whether that retaliation was justified is separate from the fact that it was aggressive.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

It killed 0 unlike the Israeli attack. Pls zip it back up after you are done.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Au contraire, it was defense and very mild at that. If Israel can kill 40,000+ people because "wE hAvE a rIgHt tO dEfEnD oUrSeLvEs" Iran absolutely can volley some missiles in response to Zionist actions

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, it is extremely justified to respond to an attack on an embassy

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's also extremely justified to respond to someone launching missiles at you. Are you really that much of an idiot that you can't see how this ends or are you just arguing in bad faith?

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No? If you start the aggression and get a response can you actually fault the other party????

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea so about half a century ago Iran started some aggression against Isreal, or maybe Isreal's existence was an aggressive move against Iran?

I don't know, which one was at fault originally?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not sure about Iran but it certainly was aggressive to Palestinians