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‘We Cannot Win’ Says Top Russian Commander (www.kyivpost.com)
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The Russian commander of the “Vostok” Battalion fighting in southern Ukraine said on Thursday that Ukraine will not be defeated and suggested that Russia freeze the war along current frontlines.

Alexander Khodakovsky made the candid concession yesterday on his Telegram channel after Russian forces, including his own troops, were devastatingly defeated by Ukrainian marines earlier this week at Urozhaine in the Zaporizhzhia-Donetsk regional border area.

“Can we bring down Ukraine militarily? Now and in the near future, no,” Khodakovsky, a former official of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, said yesterday.

“When I talk to myself about our destiny in this war, I mean that we will not crawl forward, like the [Ukrainians], turning everything into [destroyed] Bakhmuts in our path. And, I do not foresee the easy occupation of cities,” he said.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ukraine has lost. They are not getting their separatist regions back.

[citation needed].

In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting. Heck even if Russia occupied all of Ukraine they'd keep on fighting. It's not in your hands whether they fight or not, and their motive is just, so why not help them? Because you're a defeatist? Come on.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

How’s reclaiming those territories going?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting

Yeah, that's why they've been kidnapping people to the front lines, because the Ukranian people want to fight so much. That's why they conscripted prison inmates and forbid any man undder 60 from leaving when the war broke out, right. Because of all that popular will to fight.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's been plenty of court cases and firings over improperly handled conscriptions. Prison inmates IIRC weren't conscripted but given a choice. Plenty of Ukrainians -- also men -- returned from other European countries to fight, left countries where they had a free welfare ride and working permits. Plenty of women fight in the army. It surely must be terrible over there /s.

Meanwhile Russia is force-conscripting pretty much any man they can get their hands on and sending them, without equipment, into meat grinders. Have a look at Storm Z units.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

improperly handled conscriptions.

Technically they fired every conscription officer in the country for bribery so I'm not sure that really supports your case.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"They want to keep doing something you think is futile and causing senseless deaths, so why not help them?"

fidel-wut

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

You know what would be even more senseless than dying in a trench? Dying in an FSB torture cellar while your family gets raped.

[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ukraine has lost. They are not getting their separatist regions back.

[citation needed].

Points at the utter failure of the joke of a counteroffensive to even breach Russia's first line of defense after months of hype about retaking Crimea

In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting.

You mean the ones forced to fight because they were kidnapped off the street and will be shot if they try to leave? Or the fascists that are in charge?

Heck even if Russia occupied all of Ukraine they'd keep on fighting.

Part of the reason why Russia does not want to occupy all of Ukraine.

It's not in your hands whether they fight or not,

Nor yours, but it is in the hands of NATO leadership who have stymied peace negotiations at every opportunity.

and their motive is just

[citation needed]

so why not help them?

Why would we want to help people get forced into a meat grinder?

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How slava ukraini you still feeling after 8 months of being wrong and Ukraine eating shit?

[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

lol, reread what you're responding to, comrade. Friendly fire.