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AI doesn't automatically equal not private. Its probably still has private as it was before.
Now if it starts showing it knows things about you, then I'll be concerned.
It may not be that simple though.
Chatgpt is licensing their product to lots of entities and then the licensees relabel the AI as their own with a line somewhere that says "powered by Chatgpt" or similar.
For example, Bing AI is just chatgpt-4.
So if DDG is simply licensing out chatgpt, id definitely have eprivacy concerns.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/try-duckduckgos-new-ai-feature-duckassist-now-for-free/
Article about DuckAssist. It is powered by an OpenAI product. It doesn't do enough to bother me, and I can easily ignore it.
If you click the Chat button on a DDG search page, it says:
So at minimum they are sharing data with one additional third party, either OpenAI or Anthropic depending on which model you choose.
OpenAI and Anthropic have similar terms and conditions for enterprise customers. They are not completely transparent and any given enterprise could have their own custom license terms, but my understanding is that they generally will not store queries or use them for training purposes. You'd better seek clarification from DDG. I was not able to find information on this in DDG's privacy policy.
Obviously, this is not legal advice, and I do not speak for any of these companies. This is just my understanding based on the last time I looked over the OpenAI and Anthropic privacy policies, which was a few months ago.
A slightly more verbose policy specifically for the AI stuff is at https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms
Thanks! I didn't see that. Relevant bit for convenience:
Pretty standard stuff for such services in my experience.
Yeah, I don't know how they could be much better. Obviously since they don't host the model, they're doing like SearxNG and passing along data for you, but all they can do is remind you not to mention anything personally identifying.
Edit: well it tried.
Heh.
Important to differentiate in context learning and training.