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[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People in the reviews say it’s gotten much better since release but it’s still an average game at best. Private servers are only available if you pay a subscription.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Private servers are only available if you pay a subscription.

You don't suppose there are... other ...means of private servers yet, are there? Or is the game just that bad that even nefarious folk have no interest in it?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Like, pirating it? I doubt it. I mean, Bethesda's got the server code. Someone would have to reimplement all that.

Plus, it looks like it's on sale for like $8 this week on Steam.

If what you want is to play in a modded world, you're gonna be disappointed -- you're gonna want Fallout 4 for that, not 76.

76 encourages being in a team -- the team-based perks are better then the non-team-compatible perks, and you can use some of the perks that your teammates share. Plus you get to use their CAMPs and/or tents as free fast-travel destinations. What usually happens is that people who don't want to play on a team just join the first casual team with an open slot, maybe share a perk, and then proceed to ignore the team for the rest of the session.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

World of Warcraft, Star Wars Galaxies, and City of Heroes all have private servers that are run off of server emulators, that's more what I was getting at. Because usually pirated copies cannot connect to official servers, so their only choice is to use private server emulators like that.

Its just too bad Fallout Together has been getting literally zero development for years now.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So, the subscription benefits are pretty limited. I haven't subscribed.

  • You can play in a private world, but I haven't found a lot of reason to do that. You generally benefit somewhat from having other players for multiplayer events, and outside of that, they're pretty much a non-factor. IIRC you can tweak some world parameters for those, can't recall what.

  • You can slightly accelerate getting some in-game items that you can get anyway.

  • You can get a "scrap box" that can hold an unlimited amount of scrap. Some people apparently get this for one month, stuff it with huge amounts of scrap in a month, and then cancel their subscription. They keep the scrapbox, can take stuff out just can't add more to it. There isn't all that much you can do with scrap. Maybe if you're super-into building pretty CAMPs.

  • You get a small inflow of "atoms" to use in the store for in-app purchase via playing. A subscription will give you more. Most of the stuff you buy is not all that amazing (to me, at least):

  • You can buy some mostly-cosmetic items to decorate your CAMP. Some people...really get into playing SimArchitect or something with their CAMP. Like the Fallout 4 settlement building in a smaller radius, but you can do it almost anywhere and people can show off their CAMP. I don't care about that (though I have seen a handful of other people's CAMPs that are amazing. I remember one that looked like a big ship in the Mire.)

  • You can get more SHELTER maps. These are kind of a private building area that you can reach from a hatch in your CAMP on the main world. I don't care about this. The differences between these are basically cosmetic. Some are bigger, but you really aren't space-constrained. I think that they were originally intended to play into a survival aspect, where you had to hide from radstorms underground or something, but most of the game's survival aspects were nerfed after players didn't like them. Radstorms are very weak and very rare.

  • You can get alternate weapon skins. This is actually useful, because if you have multiple weapons of a type with different weapon mods, it's nice to be able to distinguish between them.

  • You can get some alternate, cosmetic, outfits. Given that I usually have a first person camera and don't play with anyone I know, this does little.

The main reason I would be interested in a single-player environment would be Fallout 4-style modding, which isn't really an option in Fallout 76, even with a private world, or if players were a pain, which I really haven't found them to be (and I'm pretty unenthusiastic about nearly all multiplayer games. I play Wargame in single-player mode. I honestly don't think that a private world is likely to buy most people much.)

From my standpoint, the initial, up-front purchase price gets pretty much everything interesting.

EDIT: Oh, and if your concern is gathering plants and stuff like that, IIRC that's per-player anyway. If someone's gathered plants and they haven't regrown, I don't think that they look gathered to you.