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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Oh sure, but if you look a little beyond the surface you'd see people who also just want to keep their jobs, just like you.

It's easy to vilify those you don't like, it's hard to really look at them and see that they aren't that different from us

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay but wanting to keep your job as a nurse at a charity clinic and wanting to keep your job as an IDF colonel are not the same.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're comparing an HR employee to a military officer? That's apples and oranges right there.

But I'll bite. Most military officers and enlisted are people too, you know. They got kids, they love and hate people too. Hell, even terrorists. Ones terrorist is another person's liberation hero. I'm sure most IDF officers too mat have misgivings about the war they fight but when you're in a military you don't get to complain, especially during a war.

It's easy to vilify people, it's hard to see that each and everyone of us is a human being with hopes and fears.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, maybe in the German SS, but I'm pretty sure every single "Israeli" SS officer gets off on the warcrimes. bad example.

also, intentionally do three (instances of-sometimes you blow up a hospital filled with orphans and POW's in a secondary strike on a medic; happens to the best of us) warcrimes in a year, and the only reason you still count as human is for harvesting parts.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but I’m good at my job and they aren’t.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They’re so damn incompetent at most of the places I’ve worked. It’s astonishing

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's funny. Most people think they're good at their job while in my experience,.moet are mediocre at best.

Not saying you're mediocre, but let's just say that I imagine me being less good at my job than I think, even with the raving reviews I got.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

That ruins the brevity and wit of the joke.

That was the one good thing I did all week! I needed that. Those little points were holding up my house of cards. Only my toaster loves me!😭❤️⚡️💧

Naw, I’d be rich sitting on a beach somewhere sipping a Mai Tai if I was something above mediocre, or maybe I wouldn’t be because regardless of my skill level we live in an unfair capitalist society which rewards those who are the most willfully exploited and with the fewest morals. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Anyway, maybe we should leave the joke alone and not think that hard about it. K?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except they have access to everyone's salaries so they have greater bargaining power than we do. Not exactly the same as the average employee at a company.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

May be so, but they're still human, love their kids, have problems just like you and me, and most importantly, they too can lose their job. I can just as well say that since I oversee all tech in the company that I work for thst, technically, if I wanted, I could see everyone's salary too. Doesn't make me better or worse or different than you.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

The point is that they have greater bargaining power than the average employee at a company, not that they aren't human. I didn't say they were better or worse than anyone.

[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Shit take. People that take HR jobs are that different than us. It's like cops, the job only attracts the exact type of person that shouldn't be doing that job.

[–] kplaceholder@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Some time ago, I met an HR person at my job. She wasn't actually part of the workplace HR team, rather, she was more like a classmate of mine, but she had worked as HR in the past and wanted to continue to do so in the future. She was kind and polite, so I never had any beef with her, but she consistently had the shittiest, most inhumane takes on how to manage and interact with people I had seen in a while lol.

Meeting her made me arrive at the conclusion that you just said. Empathetic people that get into HR with the idea of helping make the world a better place would eventually resign or, at least, be very ineffective as HR. The only people capable of staying in HR for a long time are sociopaths who don't mind lying and being obtuse in job offers, and ruining someone's life so their boss can squeeze a couple of extra cents. The profession itself only serves to make companies more ruthless and adds nothing of value to the world.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I've never met a HR person I liked. The best I could feel twords then was quiet toleration... Now Ops folks, those people busy their asses to keep the ship from sinking.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Police officers actually don't just attract bad people, they are specifically selected for it (in the US anyways, in other countries governments may actually care about that sort of thing though YMMV.

Same for human resources. I've known quite a few people working for HR and most are just people, lie you and me, doing a job they mostly like, but yeah, sometimes requires them to be in shitty situations that they didn't envision before.

[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Their job is to enforce the whims of the ownership class under threat of violence. They protect the company at all costs in exchange for power over other working class people and a bigger paycheck. Fuck them, if they really are decent people then they should quit and get a job that actually benefits society.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

My HR team has been doing layoffs inside their own department. It's kind of interesting to watch.