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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

His "no debt" spiel is a decade out of date. The red queen paradox applies here, most people need to run as fast as they can, just to stay in the same place.

The average house here has gone up in value 55 euros a day for the past decade, and rent has risen faster Unless you're already doing very well, you cant budget your way into buying a house anymore. Saving 55 euros a day for a decade means you're standing still, you need to MORE to actually get closer to buying property.

Again, that's 55 bucks a DAY, or 1650 a month, just keep pace. Dave Ramsey can fuck right off when it takes 32 hours at minimum just to stay as poor as you always were.

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

No debt has worked for me. I don't care for him and any of his advice, but getting out of debt has been great for me.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Going by your comments, you're hardly a struggling gen-z though. When you or I run in place, we're already miles ahead of those who can barely get off the starting line.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

But you were in debt, and the example given of a home mortgage is pretty definitively a debt worth taking on, as rent and increasing housing costs will easily outpace accrued interest.

You should pay that debt down quickly, unless you're mortgage rate is crazy good and investment returns are crazy high, but that's not usual. But taking on a mortgage is about the only way you can get into owning a house except for being a trust fund baby.

Some people may have to suck it up and tolerate a car payment, of they can't afford a 6 to 9 thousands dollar car, because they need transportation to get to work, and any car cheaper than that will be very expensive to repair.

Carrying over any balance on a credit card? Yeah, that's always a terrible idea.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

His no debt spiel is really only get a mortgage once you have no other debt.