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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And as I said, we’re discussing software not found in package managers, which is a lot of it.

Do you have any specific examples in mind or are you planning on leaving that as an assertion?

The difference is there is no download button for Linux, just a bunch of code you’re expected to type into the CLI that doesn’t work.

AppImage. All the user-friendly distros are configured so that installing/running those is a button click.

LOL like you don’t on Linux? I mean sometimes you don’t because they literally don’t exist. Like pretty much any fingerprint reader or Nvidia graphics card?

I have never used a fingerprint reader by in case you're interested, my graphics tablet works more seamlessly under linux, both x11 and wayland, than with windows. Can't say much about NVidia Graphics cards but they do, in fact, have drivers. If you're running the likes of Ubuntu it's going to use FLOSS drivers by default (which are getting better and better) and installing the proprietary ones is a couple of clicks.

I don’t know what Explorer is other than a shitty SUV.

It's the fucking file manager. Have you ever used windows. Also the desktop shell, actually.

If it were true, no one would pay money for Windows and Microsoft would go out of business.

Oh my sweet summer child.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you have any specific examples in mind or are you planning on leaving that as an assertion?

If you need examples, you've probably never used Linux. The majority of programs I use have to be installed through CLI or appimage while the same software on Mac and Windows are installed with a simple executable file or installation wizard.

AppImage. All the user-friendly distros are configured so that installing/running those is a button click.

You're lying again. You have to download them and then enable them to run as executable, and then everyone one of them launches with a generic image, you can't pin them to your launcher, and you can't launch them on startup, you have to launch them from within the file manager. The system does not treat them as an app at all. Just a random file.

It's the fucking file manager. Have you ever used windows

Yeah. We just call it a fuckin file manager.

Oh my sweet summer child.

Okay so just to be clear, you believe that people pay extra money to use Windows, even though Linux is just as good, or better? This is the position you want to take?

Honestly it's hilarious that you pointed out drivers on Windows because that is a massive sore point on Linux and further solidifies your delusional nature.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The majority of programs I use have to be installed through CLI or appimage

What the hell are you using, then. Seriously. Especially stuff that you wouldn't have to download manually on Windows. I'm waiting. Name them.

You have to download them and then enable them to run as executable, [...] The system does not treat them as an app at all. Just a random file.

They do? I might've had snap or flatpack in mind. I don't keep track of that stuff everything I need is actually in nixpkgs. Distro integration may differ. What are you basing your whole opinion on, here, Linux from Scratch?

Okay so just to be clear, you believe that people pay extra money to use Windows, even though Linux is just as good, or better? This is the position you want to take?

No. Windows has a head start on the Desktop due to Microsoft's FUD, illegal bundle deals with computer stores, and whatnot. Schools teaching MS Office. People thinking it's the only thing -- heck many users don't even know what an OS is, they equate PC and Windows, the other thing being Mac, which is different hardware.