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[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In-ear phones have the potential of having the highest fidelity of all headphone types. So, no, being a "codec snob" is completely justified. Though I personally won't be using BT phones before we get lossless connection as a standard. Wired are cheaper, last longer and have less environmental impact during production and after EOL.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In-ear phones have the potential of having the highest fidelity of all headphone types.

How so? Isn't converting from digital to analog better than from digital to digital to analog?

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[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing to do with ADA conversions (and digital-to-digital, eg SRC or bitdepth conversion, is completely transparent if done even remotely adequately). Small drivers close to eardrum with good seal just seem to be easier to manage when it comes to frequency response and distortion. Most open circumaural headphones, for example, seem to have deficiencies in lower end no matter the price.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Small drivers close to eardrum with good seal just seem to be easier to manage when it comes to frequency response and distortion.

Are you saying the length of the cable from my phone to my ears has an impact on audio quality?

Also, is there no loss when converting from the digital audio format to whatever bluetooth uses?

Most open circumaural headphones, for example, seem to have deficiencies in lower end no matter the price.

This seems unrelated to jack vs bluetooth.

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[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Are you saying the length of the cable from my phone to my ears has an impact on audio quality?

Why of course that is why OP only buys the finest MONSTER Vibranium-Plated Unobtanium-Engraved Analog Audiophile Cables.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, they’re saying accurately reproducing sounds for people to listen to has much more to do with the vibrating membrane to eardrum interaction than anything that happens between the source material and the vibrating membrane.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Theoretically, yes. Practically, bluetooth has been way funkier than cable ever has for me. It drops, loses packets, and sometimes tries to catch up on whatever shit it was doing to suddenly have the audio sound like it's fast forwarding. My ears aren't the best, but that's the kind of shit I do hear. Membranes can't protect you from that.

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[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a bluetooth absolutist, but I think is depends on the bluetooth transmitter in your phone (or laptop or other).
My phone, a 7 year old low end phone has multiple times better signal strength than the only dongle I could find for my PC. That fast forward like things is also the quirk of a specific bt adapter, I think, or maybe the OS, but I haven't noticed such a thing to happen, even though I have experienced too audio drops from me being too far away.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

I've had multiple phones and tried two bluetooth headsets but the fast forward and bad signal happened with all of them. I've experienced bad signal with the phone in my pocket too. Also had it happen on a plane multiple times which forced me to switch to cable. WiFi has never had these kinds of problems, but bluetooth consistently has.

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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they don’t protect you from shorted cables or dirty controls either.

The person you were replying to was saying that contrary to what the person they were replying to said, in ear headphones can have reproduction quality that merits being a “codec snob”, not that we shouldn’t care about wireless versus wired.

They even say that they don’t use wireless headphones.