When you find yourself comparing to the USSR I think you've already lost your argument. Since it boils down to "eradicate capitalism and rent becomes cheaper". Maybe it does and everything else becomes a lot shittier too.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except life expectancy, women's rights which still haven't been replicated in the west, nutrition, the eradication of homelessness(not the homeless like the US wants to do) political agency for the proletariat, the list goes on.

And lgbt rights in Cuba, east Germany before its collapse, and increasingly in countries like Vietnam and China.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you overlook the surveillance, political oppression, the beatings / torture / disappearances, the labor camps, the subjugation of minorities & religions, the squalor everyone is subject to, the censorship, the run down infrastructure, the lack of luxury goods, the imposition of "social" systems to punish non-compliance, the lack of free enterprise. It's also amusing you hail women's rights when the USSR banned abortion and made divorce practically impossible. Or LGBT when was and still is marginalized and persecuted in most Communist countries. Maybe ask the Uyghurs think of their lives in their re-education centres. But maybe you're hailing Cuba taking enormous strides to recognize LGBT rights... in 2022. Well that certainly makes up for 70 years of life under Communism.

Oh they're all such a veritable workers paradise! It's weird why so many people attempted to escape, enduring arduous journeys, even risking drowning, being shot or entangled in barbed wire. It's weird how so many countries got rid of Communism and the people rejoiced about it. Strange that.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to debunk all of that. It is much easier to say bullshit than fact check it.

It’s also amusing you hail women’s rights when the USSR banned abortion

When did the USSR legalize abortion the first and second time? When did the US legalize abortion? You don't actually have to answer this, it is a rhetorical question, but you should know the answer

Also, read "why women had better sex under socialism."

Or LGBT when was and still is marginalized and persecuted in most Communist countries.

In east Germany lgbt people lost a lot when the wall came down. In general socialist countries are better on practical lgbt rights than capitalist ones. Especially when you include the neocolonialist capitalist subjects where being lgbt is explicitly a serious crime. Cuba has the best lgbt rights in the world.

Also, communists spearheaded lgbt rights movements in capitalist countries. Taking credit for their work and recuperating it into capitalism is intellectually dishonest.

It’s weird how so many countries got rid of Communism and the people rejoiced about it. Strange that.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1284621/russia-opinion-dissolution-of-the-ussr/

[–] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

egalize abortion the first and second time? When did the US legalize abortion? You don’t actually have to answer this, it is a rhetorical question, but you should know the answer

Sure thing comrade. Go back and finish your first year political studies semester. That, or emigrate to one of these socialist paradises.