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SimpleX Chat is an instant messenger that is decentralized and doesn't depend on any unique identifiers such as phone numbers or usernames. Users of SimpleX Chat can scan a QR code or click an invite link to participate in group conversations.

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It's clearly proving to be the most innovative technology when it comes to decentralized communication, in my opinion.

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Upvoted bc VC eventually means enshittifiication. But with xz getting back-doored recently, what is the middle ground that keeps these things sustainable financially and operationally?

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it’ll be governments partially funding it. If Schleswig-Holstein’s attempt is anything to go by, it might be a way

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But do we trust entities that depend on our governments for funding? It could be argued that they’re fundamentally compromised.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As opposed to whom? Are investors in VC startups less compromised or more? What are the incentives in either case? Who do you trust to be competent and/or incompetent enough to compromise it without you noticing it? Who is likely to change a project that was well intentioned first after the fact? In what ways?

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

Many question marks, one answer- Gitea

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

You have 4 basic options for funding:

-you rely on individual donations which doesn’t bring in enough money

-you force people to pay for it, which makes it less attractive when compared to traditional software, and makes much of the community pissy

-you rely on corporate money

-you rely on government money

None is perfect, but some amount of government funding (let’s say, 10% of what they would pay Microsoft for the equivalent software) might make sense

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People paying for what they use. It's that simple.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what that looks like fleshed out a little, though. Is that a mandatory or voluntary payment? And by paying for what they use is that per message or per month like a subscription?

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Mandatory? And per month or year. Younger people might not remember but WhatsApp was $1/year (at least in the states.)

There shouldn't be anything wrong with expecting payment to pay for servers, etc. If it's free then you're the product right?

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Threema.ch already do this. Maybe that’s the answer?

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Maybe. That is a one time payment but i guess they make their money on businesses. I like it but it's not the slickest app yet.

[–] nebula224@mastodon.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I do this but sadly not viable for everyone. It is a great option though.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Secure and private by design is the solution

Nobody can compromise you if they can't