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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 166 points 1 year ago (7 children)

archive.org is cool and all, but a centralized service will never be a reliable way to truly archive something.

[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this repo still lives and we still have Suyu that looks promising, So, no worries atm https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src/releases/tag/EA-4176

[–] viking@infosec.pub 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Github probably didn't receive a cease and desist yet, but I doubt they'll put up a fight against Nintendo.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I highly suggest starting to familiarize ourselves with federated git repos. I‘m testing forgejo atm hoping to be able to host it publicly at some point. That way, once something is out there, its pretty much everywhere.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the issue isn't federation or anything like that, the issue is finding a repo hosting service in a dmca resilient country

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I get that. But I dont think that its possible to really dmca every fork of a repo on 20 countries without running out of resources at some point because when one fork is taken down, people will make 10 more. the important part is discoverability imo. Feel free to educate me in case this is missing a point.

its easy enough to send angry shit to every server, dmca and whatever rights violations they can think up, and it can become an issue.

Of course, the Federation is great, but you still need an instance that's in one of those privacy-oriented countries.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You can get chatgpt to do this. Or write a simple script.

[–] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

-- A wild Codeberg appeared. --

Codeberg is a collaboration platform providing Git hosting and services for free and open source software, content and projects.

Website: Codeberg.org


The organization selected the European Union for their headquarters and computer infrastructure, due to members' concerns that a software project repository hosted in the United States could be removed if a malicious actor made bad faith copyright claims under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Wikipedia: Codeberg e.V.


In June 2022 the Software Freedom Conservancy's "Give Up Github" campaign (in response to the GitHub Copilot licensing controversy) promoted Codeberg as an alternative to GitHub.

Conservancy: Give Up GitHub!

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Certainly better than the U.S. in that regard but I wouldn't consider Germany "resilient" either.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately using codeberg itself is kinda crap. Its not the worst thing in the world, but it still has zero discoverability , and is missing features like code search.

it does have potential though if it is resilient.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The DMCA only applies in the US. Every other country doesn't give a shit about your DMCA request.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and yet, they still obey them...

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

And even EU based companies will bow down to DMCA takedown demands, if they want to serve American customers.

[–] eratic@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Federated git repos doesn't mean that the source code will be replicated across instances. It just means you can do things like create tickets and pull requests across instances.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand. I should be able to fork a public repo across instances, no? Why bother otherwise?

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Federation has nothing to do with that capability. git clone exists since the beginning of git.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

hmmmm... I see your point. Maybe I wasnt explaining my point clear enough. Right now, I cant see someones fork of some software if I'm on some gitlab which is not federated afaik. I should have said discoverability I guess. Does that make more sense?

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

When I create a fork (in the web UI) does my instance not git clone from the source instance? Not going around cloning random federated repos I can see, but...

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At least not one that's hosted in a country where the IP mafia has any power, which is unfortunately most countries excluding places like Russia or China where you probably wouldn't want to host it anyhow due to a variety of other, uh… issues

[–] viking@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as you host the checksums elsewhere so that users can verify the repo hasn't been tampered with, you can host files in China or Russia just fine.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's assuming that the only potential issue you care about is tampering though

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't hard. Torrent with a seed box somewhere outside of copyright enforcement is likely the best option as a "backup" source.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

🤔torrent based git server, is this a thing?

[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

will never be a reliable way to truly archive something

I think they're doing a damn fine job archiving something, and in reliable ways too

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Til it gets taken down and dismantled. Yes.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if IPFS would help in this case...

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your license thingy broke since that thread where you explained your script. It doesn't spoiler anymore.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does it look like for you? I'm on the web client

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe it's just the Boost app I'm using

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Probably. Does the Boost app support spoiler in another fashion?

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The Eternity app does the same thing as Boost.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing good is allowed to exist but in shadows. Shadow archives are essential.

[–] eardon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Assassin's Creed 1 & 2 were trying to tell us something.

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

A decentralized storage providing service based on blockchain technology, if I understood that correctly