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Proton Pass now supports passkeys on all devices and plans: Beating Bitwarden to mobile devices (proton.me)

submitted 7 months ago by danie10@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Passkeys are an easy and secure alternative to traditional passwords that can help prevent phishing attacks and make your online experience smoother and safer.

Unfortunately, Big Tech’s rollout of this technology prioritized using passkeys to lock people into their walled gardens over providing universal security for everyone (you have to use their platform, which often does not work across all platforms). And many password managers only support passkeys on specific platforms or provide them with paid plans, meaning you only get to reap passkeys’ security benefits if you can afford them.

They’ve reimagined passkeys, helping them reach their full potential as free, universal, and open-source tech. They have made online privacy and security accessible to everyone, regardless of what device you use or your ability to pay.

I'm still a paying customer of Bitwarden as Proton Pass was up to now still not doing everything, but this may make me re-evaluate using Proton Pass as I'm also a paying customer of Proton Pass. It certainly looks like Proton Pass is advancing at quite a pace, and Proton has already built up a good reputation for private e-mail and an excellent VPN client.

Proton is also the ONLY passkey provider that I've seen allowing you to store, share, and export passkeys just like you can with passwords!

See https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-passkeys

#technology #passkeys #security #ProtonPass #opensource

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[–] QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would rather they make money from advertising their own pretty awesome services than from advertising unsustainable (environmentally, but also unsustainable for the fucking soul!) bullshit via blood sucking multinational tech companies that prey on the masses with whatever data they can automatically dig up on you. The revenue Proton makes from converting free customers to paid allows them to grow a freely available service that is a user-friendly and is a technical rival of the surveillance capitalists.

My take is:

If you're the sort of person that is convinced your requirements need some custom covert ops pagan voodoo self hosted data center in an old cold war era bunker, don't let me stop you. You crack right on mate and good luck (sounds like you need it!).
If you want the sorts of services Proton provides, but don't want to be fucked, then Proton are a good shout.
If you can afford it, pay for it. It makes the experience smoother and keeps a relatively small but decent company going in an ocean of massive cunts.
If you can't afford it and don't want to use the free version of Proton, I hear Google and Microsoft will happily buy your soul and sell your data.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re just going to rub people the wrong way being condescending like that. Find another way to try and bring people to your point of view.

And no, I’m not a shill for Google or Microsoft, I’m a happily paying user of Proton’s products.

[–] QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

People are perfectly within their rights to be rubbed up the wrong way.

Find another way to try and bring people to your point of view

Thanks for your great example of condescension for clarity. A little unsolicited feedback though... other people, unaware of your virtuous intent, might view it as a petty attempt to belittle a stranger on the internet. Other than that, a solid comment. B+

... that's condescending.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

People are perfectly within their rights to be rubbed up the wrong way.

Except in Florida and Texas. That shit gets you arrested these days.

Or so I hear.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You seem nice. ^_^

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If you're the sort of person that is convinced your requirements need some custom covert ops pagan voodoo self hosted data center in an old cold war era bunker, don't let me stop you. You crack right on mate and good luck

Can you give an actual example of this or are you just making a broad accusation against anyone that uses something other than Proton?

The initial point wasn't against supporting these services or them making money, it's the aggressiveness of the advertising. It shows a degree of disrespect for the users when they refuse to leave them alone.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Can you give an actual example of this or are you just making a broad accusation against anyone that uses something other than Proton?

The quote you are referring to is about people who have such specialised security needs that they choose to self-host. i.e. its about people who won't use Proton because it doesn't suit their needs. The only 'accusations' in the post are against Google & Microsoft, who are accused of buying the souls of their users and selling their data - which I think is a fair accusation. No other company or service is referred to, explicitly or implicitly.

[–] QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

No accusations intended. My point is if you're clued up enough to be comfortable making your own decisions then fill your boots. I'm not here to convince you. The "aggressive" advertising is the only way they are able generate revenue. And I'm fine with that compared to the alternatives. I find it far more disrespectful to have my data skimmed and monetised by a system of exploitative consumption.