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[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically... this war was "kind of instigated" by the EU out-bidding Russia in 2013 for the investment in a commercial agreement with Ukraine.

If you know your history, the Yanukovych-administration in Ukraine at the time reneged on the deal with the EU and switched deal to Russia at the last minute, angering the ordinary Ukrainians (which caused tensions with the pro-Russian Ukrainians but that is another story). I distinctly remember it as it was all over the news at the time. So, it is Russia who outbid for Ukraine's support in 2013 if anyone looks at it objectively.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The EU agreement included higher investments than the Russian one (aka: EU outbid Russia)... that's why, when Yanukovych (expectedly, as a Russian puppet) switched to the Russian one, the ordinary Ukrainians got... well, kind of pretty pissed.

Russia didn't outbid the EU, they puppeteered Ukraine away from the EU agreement, precisely because they could not outbid it.

The rest worked as expected.