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Yeah, if some psycho comes running to grab my weapon, you have every right to defend yourself, people willing to attack you even when you are armed are willing to do a lot of harm to you.
And in the second case they already began beating him up, including a jump kick to the head which is miracle they didn't pass out from that. And the other person pointed their gun at them (yeah turns out also those people were armed).
Yes, because they worked at that place and it fucking sucks that people would come to it to burn it, and more importantly the person that sucker punched them wasn't even being sprayed by the fire extinguisher, they were just mad that an old guy ruined his looting/arson fun.
Also if the old guy had had a weapon and shot and killed the person that sucker punched them they would have walked away in any state, no fucking jury ever would convict such person and for a very good reason lmao.
And if some psycho has brought a weapon to a dangerous area to threaten people with you have every right to defend yourself by attacking them and trying to take their weapon.
It is possible for situations to exist where both parties believe their life is in danger could claim self defense for killing the other. That is the situation Rittenhouse created here by going somewhere he had no business being with his gun. If any of those people he shot had killed Rittenhouse they could have claimed self defense and it likely would have been successful because their lives were quite literally in danger, evidenced by the fact that he killed them.
I don't know if this is different in the land where property is king, but I worked in retail and was told "If someone tries to rob you, let them. It's not worth risking your life for. property can always be replaced."
So if the correct course of action if someone claims to have a weapon in their pocket is to hand over all the money in the till, how does it make any sense at all to try to stop looting during a riot with a fire extinguisher?
No, they should not have been looting. Also, he shouldn't have been there attacking people with a fire extinguisher, what did he think was going to happen? The person punching him was also wrong to do so. It is possible to have situations where everyone is wrong.
The point is, why was the riot happening? Ignoring the cause (cops freely shooting black people unnecessarily) and focusing on "but but but THE PROPERTY!" to try to distract from the issue at hand really shows people's values.
You can't just attack people because they have a weapon wtf. There is also no indication that kyle threatened anyone with their weapon to begin with, you're just grasping for straws at this point.
edit: Also you can't really claim self defense if you CHASE someone for what? having a weapon? good luck with that. Recent example was the people that chased a black person in Georgia because they thought they were a burglar.
I suggest watching the legal eagle video of the judgement. He does an excellent breakdown of why the self defence verdict is valid, and why the people who were shot could have also claimed self defence if they survived.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIR-hhat34LI&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiumbPU6YuFAxWPMjQIHXfdATwQFnoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw3y6GfWrKjW-hyXGsgwnRql
That video very clearly states that having the weapon is not provocation to attack.
Also the breakdown of events from legal eagle is very bad, even hoeg law argued with legal eagle about that part of the video on twitter when they released it.
He downplays that a man chasing you throwing stuff at you is not going to do any harm to you may not be self defense kek, he also says "self serving testimony" this is worse than the arguments that the actual prosecutor tried to make lmao.
He also constantly says that one of the shots was in the back as if rittenhouse waited for him to fall on the ground to pop a shot in the back when all shots were in quick succession and the last one hit them as they were falling on the ground. He also says that a man does a "sort of a jump kick" when that was an actual jump kick to the head, that is aggravated assault in every sense of the word and that is more than enough to justify self defense but weird enough he downplays that.
So no, those other would have never been justified in using self defense, they had no valid reason to start chasing and attack him in first place lmao.
He even says that if WIsconsin had a duty to retreat the outcome of the case might have been different as if kyle tried to stand his ground...