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[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is actually a deliberate corp strategy. Plastic straws were never a real concern, save for that ONE turtle. Plastic straw make such a negligible amount of plastic waste that stop using it will have virtually zero measurable impact in amount of plastic waste we create. All it ever was intended for was to make us feel like something was being done while doing absolutely nothing.

That's not to say all plastic reduction initiatives are pointless. But the straws definitely belong in the least environmentally impactful category.

[–] Zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it ever was intended for was to make us feel like something was being done while doing absolutely nothing.

It certainly does help a little bit. But it's of course still not a coincidence that companies are pushing for it instead of more effective measures... It's not just cheap but it also pushes people to believe that measures to save the environment are all useless and annoying, and makes them less likely to want more to happen.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the "thoughts and prayers" of environmentalism. I'm convinced the net effect is negative after you factor in the way it distracts people from anything that might actually help.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Let's not forget tht half the time they're individually wrapped.. in plastic.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's worse is we haven't replaced plastic straws with a good alternative. Paper straws fucking blow and I'm not going to carry around and wash a silicon straw with me at all times.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Silicone. Silicone is rubber, silicon is a crystal.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe MeatsOfRage is just really fancy? 😁

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I mean, one alternative that you are carrying around at all times is your mouth. It's very rare that a straw is needed at all.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

They had acrylic straws back in the 80s FFS, this isn't hard.

Or you could just not use a straw, only babies need them.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we use Lemmy to figure out what should be done, push for that change, and bring plastic straws back?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fund a grassroots media campaign advocating to make corporations pay to fix the environment and for price control laws to stop them passing on costs to the consumer.

At some point, people are going to have to accept their legal systems have been completely broken by regulatory capture and that they're going to have to go to war to implement new governments that actually will do what the people want them to do. That's the real talk that needs to happen

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Companies already buy "carbon offsets" or whatever that shitbis called - essentially, they pay money to another businnes, one that is supposed to somehow help the planet and the carbon dioxide increase, and then they just call it a day and slap some stickers on their stuff saying it's all eco-friendly.

Big players have been at it for a long time to cover themselves from way more angles than we can think of. :(

This is also what many countries do to achieve their emission reduction targets.