But, since you asked nicely, I'll rephrase it as a conservative would. As I think someone should believe what feels right to them, but at least understand the mind and motivations of your opposition, otherwise you will fail in your goals. That's something not one of the 10 downvoters and 5 commenters have been able to do.

The far left seeks to eradicate the fundamental principles of individual initiative and free enterprise in favor of a collectivist agenda, they're in favor of legalization of all drugs and the murder of children and don't understand that a functioning society is a fragile house of cards. They think that children growing up without one or both parents is perfectly fine, and the child will in turn be a well-adjusted adult, regardless. They want to open the borders to let every spy, murderer, and rapist into their neighborhood. The far right aims to preserve traditional values and defend against the erosion of societal norms by those advocating for radical change.

Internet proselytization is this generations' version of Vietnam-era I’d Love to Change the World.

I'd love to change the world

But I don't know what to do

So I'll leave it up to you.

I get it. The state of the world right now is a sad mess. But if you're going to fight a war you can win, you must first understand the basics.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Okay great job you dressed up some hateful shit with jingoistic buzzwords. What's your point? We've all heard this before, no one is unaware of the rationalizations that conservatives tell themselves to justify their hatred and selfishness as tough love and societal stewardship.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, now what are the rationalizations that progressives/liberals/Democrats/leftists/whatever the preferred term that's the opposite of 'conservative' tell themselves?

Keep in mind, you're including the entire group here, as you did with 'conservatives', so anything any [preferred leftist term] does means it's representative of the entire group.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Again, what's your point? You think you're being clever but you're just sniping at strawmen with old ammunition.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No logical fallacy buzzwords to falsely throw around? Just a downvote because someone has shared a non-genocidal point of view?

Sad but not surprised.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What's the strawman I'm sniping at?

ETA: yes it's as old as human nature and organized religion, yes, and you're continuing it. Everyone with different beliefs is "the other" and "the enemy" and "must be removed from existence to ensure peace for our people." I'm trying to point out that you're being taken advantage of, and the truth seems to be evoking strong emotions.

If you say down and had an honest conversation without yelling and turns were allowed to be finished, you'd find you have much more in common with these individuals than "the enemy" as the group you see them as.

But ideological warfare prevents class warfare, so it continues being spoonfed to you, and you happily latch on to every bite so you continue to feel a sense of purpose.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You lost me at leftists want to murder children.....

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

i think hes saying the issue of abortion.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You clearly don't understand the beliefs and motives of your political opponents.

You lost me at

Doesn't matter, because in this thought experiment you're not the conservative who believes abortion is murder.

Good luck with your ~~sports team ideological shitposts~~ political memes, I guess.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Lmao I understand them far too well.