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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 81 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Generally I've seen it rules that the overlap needs to cover >50% of the square to affect it. In which case you have the exact same coverage as before. But in this case I'd just rule that we shift the grid 45 degrees so it lines up again and move units to the closest square that aligns. I.e. don't use geometry to try to munchkin.

There's a bunch of grid-based shapes that pertain to the rules of 5e as well if you need that. Also 5e fun fact: a circle or radius affect is going to look like a square since diagonal distance is not accounted for, but in Pf2e it looks closer to an actual circle.

[–] solarvector@lemmy.zip 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 37 points 8 months ago

Ahem... I think you mean, "hexagons are the bestagons"

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

5e accounts for diagonal distance. Each second diagonal is 10ft. A 10ft. radius sphere spell would cover this pattern on the ground:

OOOOOOO

OOXXXOO

OXXXXXO

OXXXXXO

OXXXXXO

OOXXXOO

OOOOOOO

...lemmy formatting kills that but you get the point I hope.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
OOOOOOO
OOXXXOO
OXXXXXO
OXXXXXO
OXXXXXO
OOXXXOO
OOOOOOO
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You’re welcome! For reference it’s a code block, all formatting goes out the window, returns are considered returns, and a monospaced font. You use three backticks (```) on a line above and below your “code” (you can technically specify the code type at the end of that first back tick line) and then go to town between them.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I use them for actual code but the ability to use them to get normal returns somehow hadn't occurred to me haha

[–] robotica@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can also have "normal returns", or line breaks instead of new paragraph, by putting a double space at the end of a line:

Hello
Double
Spaced
Lemmy!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Omg yes I forgot about this thank you

Newlines are great
But they should just format them normally

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is only listed in 5e as an optional rule, by default a square is a square and is 5ft regardless of diagonal or not.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Feats are also an optional rule, but I've never heard of a table not using them. "Optional rule" in 5e is kind of like the term "theory" IRL, in that some really are optional and some are basically always used. I will admit that not all tables use the diagonal rule, though.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I always houserule that "circles are square", because it's so much quicker and easier. It gets a little extreme when you do it in 3D, but I don't overly care.

(For fun, a double diagonal move of 5 places you at 8.66 from the start, almost 75% further than an orthangol move, but still 5 for game purposes)

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

but in Pf2e it looks closer to an actual circle.

Same in PF1, and all the D&D's before 4. I'm pretty sure most games made to be played with a battlemap have a rule for diagonals, making 4e an exception.