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[–] willeypete23@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People commit theft because the barriers / consequences of theft to obtain an item or less than the barriers/consequences of legitimate purchase. It's always a supply and availability issue. Humans aren't intrinsically evil. Also there aren't a bunch of programs to provide free baby supplies. Even WIC requires application but some people might not have the time or ability to go to. And it's not free with WIC, you still have to pay.

Also if you want to talk philosophy, children are too young to consent and be beholden to the social contract. They're participation is mandatory because they are innocent and dependent. It's our obligation to provide for them collectively.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People commit theft because the barriers / consequences of theft to obtain an item or less than the barriers/consequences of legitimate purchase

But that is objective which is my point. I feel guilt that my actions can impact other people negatively. Thief's though grow up never giving a shit. If you're around these people long enough you'll see patterns of behavior that clearly show that consequence part of their brain is different. Its like their pleasure center overrides anything of consequence and their whole life is seeking out personal advantageous at the cost of other people.

Like I said, I've known people to have enough money to afford groceries and everything else. But they will steal something like formula. They don't care. Even at a Walmart there's managers and employees that need to answer for why there's such a high theft rate at stores. Its never victimless.

I'm all for providing care. And people aren't born evil but they do become it in very insidious ways. And one way is being someone who never stopped to care that their actions and behaviors would put a burden on others. They live for themselves only. Like the formula. Think about it in the mind of a person whose brain only looks at how they can benefit. Why spend money on your kid when you can use it to get yourself a treat. Just steal the formula and buy yourself that thing you wanted. Thief's are like that. Many are not stealing because they need to. Many are stealing because their barrier/consequence calculation removes the part where you have to think of others.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And people aren’t born evil but they do become it in very insidious ways. And one way is being someone who never stopped to care that their actions and behaviors would put a burden on others.

You literally just said: “People aren’t born evil but they do become it by being someone who was born evil.” If they never stopped to care their whole lives, they started that way.