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Many Toyotas. Even their newest series LandCruiser is doing well and will continue the legacy of doing well because durable mechanical simplicity is what it brings to the competitive table.
A lot of Toyotas last a long time and are easy to work on. That in turn makes them popular, making parts for them even cheaper.
Honestly? Consider grabbing another Corolla if you liked your Corolla. The Toyota price tag pays itself off in longevity and low ongoing cost. They just don't die and do their job well for a long time.
Agreed. My 2020 corolla has very little of the digital bells and whistles that are increasingly getting in the way of things "just working" in the driving experience.
Still, more than I'd like, but much less than any other vehicle I've driven in the last 10 years.
And, as far as I can tell, it doesn't have any way of "phoning home" to tell the corporate overlords if I'm doing something they don't approve of.
I can't quote it offhand, but I know I've read an article recently about corporations phoning home and I believe Toyota was on the list. I'll see if I can dig it up.
That said, I agree about the Toyotas. Even if they DO phone home and we have to deal with that crap, they're bulletproof and deserve their reputation.
Edit: guess I never ended up reading the whole article, but it was Mozilla. Hopefully this helps: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/
Yeah it seems all cars share data now according to that report :(
Just gotta get an older dumb car that's reliable (like Toyota or Lexus) or maybe you can remove the modem from the car.
Edit: after some quick googling you can remove the fuses on some cars to disable the wireless connectivity but that's on a case by case basis.
That report is based on reading privacy policies, it doesn't actually assess what cars / brands actually do or are capable of
Agreed. My 2011 Toyota Auris hybrid is still chuntering along with minimal issues. A friend got a new car recently and its electronic horrorshow puts me right off giving up my dumb old car.