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[–] ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn't even solve the problem.

IDK about that, the only person who can crack denuvo is empress and she doesn't crack all games, so I guess it atleast reduces piracy for a while. I agree however that DRM shouldn't exist.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Enshitification of DRM with denuvo going subscription model has become an unexpected ally in DRM getting removed even if it doesn't get cracked.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, from the leaked Crytek contract it revealed that devs have to pay again every year or remove it, which means Sega is extremely hostile since they still pay for denuvo on years old games like Persona 5 Royal.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

AFAIK there are devs who remove Denuvo as soon as their game gets cracked, and tbh I don't have too many complaints about that system. That being said, I don't own any games with Denuvo, so I don't know why it's hated so much.

[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Because it reduces performance. There is no benefit to the consumer. Your game experience is measurably worse because of it.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Get a steam deck and you'll see why.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How? Does the Steam Deck force Denuvo on everything or something?

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I like to use steam deck when I travel. Denuvo can refuse to launch without internet connection to reactivate a license. Also if you exceed 5 activations in a day you can't play the game for 24 hours. This includes switching which proton version you use to launch the game, which is sometimes necessary if something like the audio doesn't work properly on the default.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/wymoi9/psa_for_denuvo/

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Makes more sense. I had no idea that Denuvo was that unreasonable

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's something you shouldn't notice if you always have internet connection, but if you start playing where you won't always have internet connection that's when problems pop up. That's when you appreciate the DRM free games.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, and it runs denuvo games fine. It's things like EAC or EA Anti-Cheat that break on Deck/Linux.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think most people understand that DRM and Anti Cheat are done for 2 completely different reasons.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, in the context of the Steam Deck, DRM works fine and anti-cheats often don't.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea why you're talking about the Steam Deck and anti-cheat when the comment I replied to was strictly about Denuvo.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Because Stardust said "Get a Steam Deck and then you'll see why" which makes no sense in the context of Denuvo DRM, hence it is most likely Stardust confusing anti cheat issues for DRM ones. Not that hard to figure out.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

DRM exists for more than just games.