this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2024
942 points (97.5% liked)

Memes

45745 readers
1611 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
sexy_peach@feddit.de
cyclohexane@lemmy.ml
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
942
Chat Apps (kbin.run)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/memes@lemmy.ml
328 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] clot27@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

and how? dont send me a decade old audit on the protocol which telegram abandoned around the same time.

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

They hated him, for he spoke the truth.

[–] guts@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Telegram is more akin to Discord with secret chats, I wouldn't trust ZuCKs Whatsapp.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And how does being e2ee by default guarantee you are secure? whatsapp doesnt even encrypt metadata.

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't like whatsapp either but my claim still holds. e2ee by default for all chats is arguably more privacy respecting than opt-in e2ee for 1-1 chats only. and what metadata exactly does telegram encrypt but whatsapp does not?

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

e2ee by default only for your data to be used when you back it up. Atleast there have been no data breaches reported in telegram so far

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you can encrypt backups in whatsapp but we might agree on whatsapp and telegram being equally bad then

no data breaches reported in telegram so far

yes they hand it out voluntarily, search term: telegram german authorities

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

only if you are terrorist or do some CP stuff. Besides there are ton of reasons why I should use telegram. Its a lot more featureful, its easy for people to move their and its secure enough for me because I am not a terrorist and I dont sell drugs, thanks.

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i have nothing to hide

okay buddy

[–] clot27@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

nitpicking by avg signal fanboi.

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

average telegram fanboi cope

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's fun watching people argue about things I don't care about. Like, y'all haven't already abandoned your sense of privacy to this world? Lol

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

These nerds will debate platforms way more than use them productively.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's fun though. I'm glad they keep an eye on this stuff because I don't and someone definitely should. But it really is just a hobby. It's fun how serious they take it. Super serious hobby lol. Love them to death though. Greatful too!

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And yet no one was able to crack it.

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

it's not about cracking anything it's about the telegram owners being able to read your messages???

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You can use E2E???? !!!!!

[–] strahlemann@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

not in group chats and most people don't care about it for 1-1 chats as well.