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[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Despite these red flags I think people will just vote for him as a counter vote to Trump. America would rather have a President asleep at his desk than one who wants to burn the house down.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (50 children)

The choice is pretty easy:

Aid and support to Israel

Or

Aid and support to Israel, and give Ukraine to Russia, and give Taiwan to China, and implement fascism at home

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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What boils my blood is that everyone kinda accepted right's reaction to the president. For them it's all about theatrics and how much of a frenzy the president can whip with a twitter account, and nobody cares about policies. Biden's administration is incredibly effective, they appoint people when they needed, they organise commissions when appropriate, they propose and support bills and legislations, you know, all the things that presidential administration is suppose to do, and apart from knee-jerk reaction on Israel issue, they were on the right side every time, and they fixed a lot of damage that previous guy made.
But Biden isn't a wanabe dictator that tries to rule around checks and balances to achieve loud social media headlines, so everyone calls him president asleep and waits for Trump but good (and I can't stress enough how bad that would be actually)

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Biden’s administration is incredibly effective [at accomplishing the things I care about]

We know this. We know you are happy with Biden. Goodie for you.

We are not. Are you going to listen to us or just keep telling us how happy you are with the guy you voted for in the 2020 primaries?

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We know you are happy with Biden.

Very explicitly not what I said.
What I am saying is, you didn't vote in the primaries at all, so now you stuck with whatever other people chose. And turns out, that guy isn't as bad as everyone thought, actually. Not good, but also not bad. It's just the system they have to operate in is incredibly fucked, and it's fucked because every 8 years or so US collectively decides that not bad is not good enough and decides to elect someone who explicitly wants to destroy everything they can.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What I am saying is, you didn’t vote in the primaries at all,

Incorrect. Not only did I vote I phone banked, canvassed and donated just like I did in the 2016 primaries.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sorry, I wasn't precise. I didn't mean you personally, I meant royal you, people with your position. Based on poll numbers there is either not enough progressives in US or they're incredibly politically inactive. And honestly, I don't know what is worse.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And honestly, I don’t know what is worse.

Someone who takes time out of their day to vote against the interests of every generation after them is absolutely worse than someone who stays home. Period.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nothing the person you replied to said indicates they're happy with the Democrats. They just say that there is a lot to lose if the Homicidal Culture War Party takes office again.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nothing the person you replied to said indicates they’re happy with the Democrats.

Yes they did. Right here.

Biden’s administration is incredibly effective

I see you all have resorted to shameless gaslighting.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

Ah, I see, you just don't know what some words mean.
"Effective" doesn't mean "I very much like that". I was specifically opposing the narrative that Biden's administration doesn't do anything, you know, "sleepy Joe" propaganda point. Actually, they do a lot of things, they just don't advertise it to a general public very well.
I also never thought that Biden will try to do something that he wasn't trying to do ever, so him not implementing single payer healthcare plan, for example, isn't a testament to his effectiveness, but his political values.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Efficiency isn't good if you don't agree with everything someone does but I see why you interpret it like that.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately many of my peers are saying they're going to abstain from the general or vote third party. I'm worried people would rather end democracy than hold their nose and vote for Biden.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good. Get more worried. Biden will lose if he continues this Genocide.

Last election he barely won while everyone was dunking on Trump. He will never win while the left is actively fighting against Biden instead of Trump.

If Democracy is Genocide or Genocide it's already dead

[–] TrivialAntics@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I'm definitely an anything but Trump voter. Biden will have my vote since nobody else stands a chance.

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