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We need to exert more pressure on apple and eu to not remove PWAs. Every signature counts, please sign and share EU has already started a preliminary investigation on this http://archive.today/2024.02.26-223134/https://www.ft.com/content/d2f7328c-5851-4f16-8f8d-93f0098b6adc

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[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Windows is the one where I need an account to install and that spies on me and throws ads in my face, that one?

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Like I said, there's ways to make it private. And there's ways to block the ads. There's ways to use it without a Microsoft account too.

Apple devices have a second network adapter to bypass your VPN and any adblocking software you have to serve you locally relevant ads.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

second network adapter

Source? A quick search didn't turn up anything.

[–] brakenium@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't need an account. De-bloating scripts take care of most other annoyances. You can fairly easily beat windows into submission

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You don't need an account.

Technically true but worthless to your average consumer. You need to interrupt the installation process, enter a command in a terminal after knowing how to access the terminal and then you can use a local account.

This is worthless to your average person.

The same argument applies when Linux neckbeards waddle out of a basement to declare something is simple; just open terminal and do Y.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

The average consumer doesn't know what NTFS or FAT32 is. I don't think they'll understand the privacy implications of Windows reporting.

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not tried in a while but it used to just be a case of leaving it disconnected from the net during setup.

Failing that you can still sign up with a throwaway account and convert it to local in the options after installation iirc. It's not ideal but it's still something at least.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There are additional steps now which I mentioned.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

your average consumer

People aren't "consumers" A consumer is a gaping maw that eats everything until there's nothing left.

People are people. They're home users, they're customers, they're clients, they're citizens, they're legal residents. But they are not now or will they ever be "consumers"

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Consumer noun

a person who buys goods or uses services

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/consumer

Please link the dictionary your definition comes from.

[–] Quastamaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last time I checked you could sign in without a Microsoft account by deliberately interrupting your internet connection while setting up Windows.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

They even have an offline installer mode with local account only. Just need to download the correct image from the Microsoft server.