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Open Letter to Tim Cook: Sabotaging Web Apps Is Indefensible (letter.open-web-advocacy.org)

submitted 9 months ago by libreom@lemmings.world to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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We need to exert more pressure on apple and eu to not remove PWAs. Every signature counts, please sign and share EU has already started a preliminary investigation on this http://archive.today/2024.02.26-223134/https://www.ft.com/content/d2f7328c-5851-4f16-8f8d-93f0098b6adc

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This topic is about mobile devices, not desktop. Last I checked, Windows and Linux aren't mobile OS's.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Android is LTS kernel + Google patches. I know it's not the flavor of Linux you are talking about, but most of my apps are side loaded via F-Droid and a few from Aurora as a Play store proxy on a de-Googled ROM (GrapheneOS). There is no walled garden here.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The most relevant part to this discussion is that Android doesn't restrict Web browsers. On Apple, all Web browsers, even Firefox, are nothing but reskins of Safari.

So their restrictions on Web apps affects all Web browsers on IOS because they only allow their own html engine.

It's absolutely insane how far we have fallen from the 90's. Back then MS got in trouble just for including a browser with the OS. Now Apple has the majority market share in the US and is allowed to not only to bundle their own browser, but doesn't allow any other browser other than their own.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

While you’re right about Android not restricting browsers, the context that is missing here is that the EU is (rightfully) forcing Apple to allow actual alternative web browsers/engines. In doing this, Apple is claiming that it’s too hard to support pwas while complying with the EU rulings.

It’s utter bullshit, and pwas should continue to be supported in safari and other browsers on iOS, but Apple’s just gotta be a spiteful asshole while complying with the letter of the EU law.

I live in the United States, currently use iOS devices, and regularly use pwas. It’s pretty unlikely my next phone will be an Apple device. I’ll probably end up with a pixel running Graphene.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are mobile Linux distros.

I am looking forward to installing Ubuntu Touch on my device:
https://ubuntu-touch.io/
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

There are also a bunch of others, which I haven't looked into.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_mobile_devices

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Yup, and Linux specific devices: Purism Librem 5, Pinephone, and Pinephone Pro. I was hoping to replace my phone with one this year, but they're not quite there yet for what I need, but I'll probably get one anyway to mess around with.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Android is linux.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You know what they mean.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe now, but Postmarket, Ubuntu phone, and Purism could be relevant in the future