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Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ‘supports second Trump term’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Yeah, all I’m hearing when I read this is “I won’t vote for either candidate, and I’m going to pretend that doesn’t help Trump.”
Then blame the person responsible, or feel good about supporting genocide, and child murder.
You’re making a choice either way. Your vote, or lack thereof, directly helps choose the next president.
The reason the trolly problem exists is to show that morality isn’t some easily answered question. But it applies perfectly here.
Any choice you make results in support for Israel. Literally any choice, including “no choice” which is still a choice. So you have to ask yourself, if all roads lead to that specific thing still happening, should you not vote to protect the things that are still possible? Or should you throw LGBTQ+ individuals, drag queens, reproductive rights, and more under the bus?
consequentialist views of ethics literally say ends justify means.
the right thing is not to support genocide. there are two candidates who won't: Jill Stein and cornel West
And when you can’t vote for them in the general election without writing them in, and throwing away your vote?
How very intersectional of you.
You also missed the entire point of my post. Yelling 'vote harder' at the people who are disgusted with genocide who engage in political discussions online won't be more than a drop in the bucket in comparison to the people who aren't terminally online and are disgusted by genocide so they don't vote.
Your guy Biden is throwing the election to Trump, and you're blaming everyone but him.
Good job.
You're also setting the stage for blaming leftists for his failure, thus ensuring the further right wing drift of the DNC.
Good job.
I'm also 43, every single election I've heard the same exact argument from the DNC. Every. Single. Election.
And nothing changes.
You know the definition of insanity? That's the DNC.
Biden won Michigan by 11k votes.
Biden chose to give the next election to Trump so he could help Israel commit genocide.
It’s quite clear you have no idea what you’re talking about.
How do you think Biden wins Michigan?
Can you explain to me how this isn’t a crazy conspiracy theory being pushed by a ~~foreign operative~~ nut job?
There is no single 'nut job' pushing anything. It is simply being aware of current demographic trends in Michigan, and knowing that Biden won Michigan by only 11k votes.
I don't need to listen to someone else to decide what my opinions are. I'm capable of looking at objective data, and drawing conclusions for myself. Lots of Michigan state DNC members, including the one that screamed the loudest that Clinton was going to lose are raising the same warnings about this election.
God, you're so brain rotted by living in a bubble and blaming a foreign power for everything you literally are incapable of analyzing data yourself, if it leads to a conclusion you don't like.
That is a really really bad place to be.
No, Biden did not win the Michigan primary by 11k. Do you know how numbers work? Your image even shows the numbers. Where do you see 11k?
He won with ~623k votes, which represented just over 81% of the total votes. Contrast that to 2020, in which he won with just over 840k votes, or just shy of 53%.
I am shocked… that you’ve managed to double down on your ignorance, when you’re literally providing the contrary information in your initial comment.
As for the rest of your comment, I think it’s quite obvious you’re incapable of coming to correct conclusions. If you’re doing basic math and coming out with incorrect answers? God help you.