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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They aren't destroying the left, there just has never been a meaningful left in America.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure that's why FDR never won in an absolute landslide.

It's why none of the last successful Democrat presidency runs over the last 2+ decades have been based on progressive reform and no Democrat would run with a slogan like "Change we can believe in" with only one outlier being the most recent election based on a distinct aversion to fascism.

America has never created national parks, new deals for farmers, or held up a man who was against war during the Cold war.

Nah. Left just doesn't exist.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

national parks that still rob native peoples of their land? is that progressive to you? new deals for farmers, on stolen land? don't act like america is anything to be proud of, even the leftest leaning presidents still upheld the empire.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Better than drilling on it. You can't go back and undo history. It's happened. It's a shit take to just show it was someone else's land. It always is. We are all living in someone else's house and something else's environment, so I'm and so forth.

Yes we can be better in the future and should aim for that but just screaming that it's all crap is really derivative of every history of everything.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its a shit response to say that everybody has had land stolen. Especially when those peoples are still alive. So if we are to be better, then we need to acknowledge that there is still justice undone. And again these native peoples are still here, they aren't gone. Native Hawaiians are actively being poisoned due to the US military's ignorance and neglect of their own infrastructure. Democrats aren't talking about that are they? Hawaii was illegally annexed but I'm sure Democrats vacation there just as much as Republicans. They are still fighting for rights to their land and anyone in Congress or the White House would say they can go fuck themselves.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I'm actually fully in agreement that native Hawaiians are being pushed into extinction but that's part of the now that needs to be fixed. Actions have to be taken for the current issues and there may and very usually is history to navigate within because it does matter but you can't just ask for history to change we need to figure out solutions for now.

And yeah rich people of all parties aren't going to be particularly interested and it's obvious our government doesn't work right. Your original point that national parks aren't progressive is bad because even though stolen they are protected wild lands for hundreds of years. The new deal was a huge help to failing farms that are literally needed to feed people. We are facing inequality of massive magnitudes and climate change that is going to cause farming issues of the future, and climate refugees and economic refugees. We have to work with that now, looking at what the future we see from our choices with enough remembrance of the past but not clinging to it.

Unless you just want to be angry.

Edit: also my point is that eventually no matter what someone else will take your land whether they are your progeny or your replacement. It's never your land or your stuff. It's just temporary.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

They aren't progressive. You can't forage on them, even if you are native. Its just for the white bourgois to enjoy. They are not protected for hundreds of years. Trump was able to sell some off to oil and natural gas. Biden didn't reverse it or stop it from continuing. You frame me as a child throwing a tantrum. "Unless you just want to be angry" Fuck off. If you aren't angry, then you aren't actually affected by it. We should be angry.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

As if this isn't happening across the globe. American politics is not the only domain infested with the neolibs