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Okay, but windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
I don’t hate windows as much as I hate Microsoft.
ReactOS is a cool project and I hope it goes somewhere.
ReactOS is dead and will go nowhere.
The reason I say this is that I've been following them for something like 15+ years by this point, and they haven't made any perceptible progress in that time. They're at exactly the same point now where they were 15 years ago.
I completely forgot about this little gem. I used to follow it too, but just dropped it along the way.
Maybe they'll launch with Starfield
Yes, Windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
But how difficult is it to use actual arguments to prove they did instead of pulling completely false ones out of your ass?
I make fun of Windows search all the time because it deserves it.
But I'm not going to make fun of Windows update because it doesn't directly tell you what they changed. Since a single google search can give you the answer.
Anyway, Linux memes should be about Linux, not Windows. It is almost like those Linuxians are jealous Windows has a ginormous market share while their respective distro does not.
What market share are you talking about?
Overall Linux runs the world. So I am generally confused.
Oh, you know.
The 70% in the personal desktops wordwide.
The 75% in the personal laptop worldwide
The 30% of all operation systems, which only gets beaten by Android.
The 96.61% of devices that run Steam
The only one Linux has anything in is on servers.
Then go and use any of the things you are using without linux.
Lemmy? Hosted on a Linux server
Almost any major website? Linux server
Any other web service? Linux Server
The Server infrastructure that surrounds your favourite Operating System? Guess what, Linux server
Don't forget to add android into the mix as well!
So you agree that it's jealousy that the entire world uses windows and not linux? It's the 23rd Year of the linux desktop in a row. "Uhhhhhh but my servers..." Nobody cares. Nobody wants to get rid of Debian and RHEL. Nobody wants to use them as a Desktop.
Except for millions upon millions of users, right? Screw those guys because they aren't the majority.
I dunno dude. 4 Billion People use computers and millions of users spread over several distributions is not a lot.
And with the amount of gatekeeping and arguing over what is and isnt the best i would also stay far away if i didnt administer servers. Even then i use windows most of the time.
A good chunk of that 4 billion have never used anything aside from a phone as a computing device. If you widdle that number down to only desktop users the Linux marketshare jumps to about 5%.
I really wanted to be right about this and checked what i follishly spat out as fact.
Linuxs market share is about 8%, i am going to add others to linux for good measure, because it probalby is in some way.
So yeah, you're right.
But that is still a tiny fraction compared to Windows with a not really trustworthy 74%
I forgot what the argument was about and at this point it doesnt really matter anymore. Linux users be talking about Windows a lot. Happens.
Even 3% is not insignificant. Especially when you consider that most computers come with Windows pre-installed. Imagine how that would change if Linux came pre-installed.
And those numbers really start to skew in favor of Linux when you exclude markets like China. IIRC when you exclude China for desktop marketshare stats Linux alone (not including "other") jumps closer to 10%.
Can we also include WSL?
funny you mention that, wanna know what you get if you look at the Kernel running underneath Android? Oh would you look at that, it's actually Linux...
I do agree on the weird obsession with hating windows but lack of market share is not the reason it happens, it's probably more due to people leaving Windows in the first place because they were immensely unsatisfied with it (Unlike Windows or Mac there are very few Linux Pre-Built PCs out there so chances are any given Linux Desktop User actively decided on that choice) and are now just hung up and bashing on it.
Did I stutter?
Without Linux the whole world would litetally not run. I don't fucking care what some consumers jack of on which OS. I care what runs literally our complete infrastructure.
Which car does use Windows or Mac? Which super Computer does that? Which Important Server does that? None, literally.
Mentioning Windows' market share really hit a nerve with you, didn't it?
I use Linux without worrying about whatever market shares anyone has, and I feel much happier that way.
Yes, I wanted to go against his "we as Linux users are jealous about Windows because of marketshare" which I tried to defeat because I literally am not jealous for given reasons.