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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think about this every time some centrist claims that no leftist system has ever worked.

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I mean the big ones people like to point at (Rushia and fucking Nazi Germany) sure as shit weren't doing communism or socialism

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 49 points 9 months ago (50 children)

I don't think anyone points at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system. They were literally fascist lol

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone points at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system

I've seen many idiots do that unfortunately

[–] DoctorSpocktopus@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are definitely some folks that see “National Socialism” as the party name and look no further. Fortunately, I don’t think it’s a strong majority, but they pop up online.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oof I feel concerned about those people.

I guess it's similar to "an" caps.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Intersection is indeed a very high degree.

It would be funny if there weren't people suffering and dying because of it

[–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Reminder that there's a bird called titmouse

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Both Crowder and Shapiro have claimed this. They point out that the Nazi party was the 'National Socialist German workers' party' and claim that's enough for it to be socialist, and then also claim Russia is a communist country.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Crowder and Shapiro are complete idiots.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Idiots? On the right? Arguing in bad faith? You don't say...

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

The USSR was a communist country. A normal use of that term is that a country communist is one that's run by a communist party.

If you mean it didn't achieve communism, well duh communism is a hypothesized society achieved through socialism where the state ceases to exist. No socialists, including the people of the USSR, would think that their nation-state has achieved communism as that's oxymoronic. They would think of it as a transitional socialist state.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a Hitler quote somewhere, in some letter that was like "we laugh at the fools who think our ideology has anything to do with the socialism of the bolsheviks"

There was another one where he says "I didn't want to kill the Jews, but they're all communists"

Someone with a better ability to keep track of sources than me probably knows where to find them

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[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Correct. They are both idiots who pointed at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system.

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Nazi Germany wasn't left and the USSR, which included more than Russia, was a transitional socialist country lol.

[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if alternative spelling or if your autocorrect really likes controversial vtuber Uruha Rushia.

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

Ah shit. Guess you can tell what kinda stuff I like watching

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