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I've been using this search engine and I have to say I'm absolutely in love with it.

Search results are great, Google level even. Can't tell you how happy I am after trying multiple privacy oriented engines and always feeling underwhelmed with them.

Have you tried it? What are your thoughts on it?

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been using it as my primary for quite a while, it’s pretty awesome and the development pace is pretty good.

I’m not really a fan of the lead guy, some of the comments he’s made on the forums are less than great, but the product is top notch.

[–] wavydotdot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate on the comments? I haven't read any of them.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some interesting moderation choices that suggest a lack of support for the LGTBQ+ community, a business partnership with Brave, and a really shitty take refusing to add help numbers for self-harm related searches.

You can get the cliff notes of it from this post and comment to it: https://lemm.ee/comment/8016834

[–] wavydotdot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This made me sad. I actually thought I found the search engine I was looking for and now I get this shit.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

It is indeed disappointing.

[–] Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I would argue that the new answer is still bad.

The search results were top notch before adding Brave, indicating to me that they aren’t really needed.

“People complain about all of them” is probably a factual statement, which is why evaluating each source independently is valuable. I don’t think it justifies completely dismissing criticism.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know what you are referring to with regards to the LGBTQ+ matter, but the only source is the user who reported it (with a screenshot that did not show anything), the same user who used some completely dishonest and bad faith arguments* to slander the CEO guy. I wouldn't take that at face value and I have absolutely no problem to see, instead, a reason to moderate their comments.

* the CEO of kagi has a website with a "best country ranking", which is just a stupid page with 15 criterias chosen to rank which country is the greatest. The argument was that the guy must be a racist/white suprematist because the top countries for the most part were white (and wealthy. Duh). Apparently they were especially pissed about the fact that he decided to include the Olympic medals pro capite, despite the fact that it's one of the few metrics in which first world countries were not at the top.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

with a screenshot that did not show anything

the screenshot shows a thread on Kagi's Discord that's been deleted almost immediately after that screenshot has been taken, while other user's calls to "stop shoving LGBTQ down our throats" have been left up.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The screenshot shows an off-topic comment that complains about other comments being "left up", and the CEO that answers that nothing has been deleted, in fact (I suppose in regards to the topic). The thread in the screenshot was (going to be) deleted because it's off-topic, it's a meta-conversation that doesn't add anything to the general discussion, if not noise and chaos (and tbh, following long conversation in discord is already terrible as it is).

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is not what Ethnicity is.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are talking about the same thread, right?

https://nyan.lol/@zicklepop/111716010186646210

This one.

There is no comment that the "CEO tried to scrub". There is only a discord screenshot of a meta-conversation about the fact that the user claimed their comment was deleted, and the CEO answers that nothing was deleted to avoid this very same accusation, and then says he will delete this (the meta) thread (because it's off-topic).

Not sure what you find funny though, however,

a paraphrased and reinterpreted (in bad faith) piece of a comment

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and his response is basically that inclusivity is why there is no innovation in tech anymore. i think he wants to get acquired by 37signals.

Which is completely arbitrary. Even wanting to read the comment of the CEO with malice, he said "politics".

…appeal to ethnicity is pretty funny

This has nothing to do with ethnicity, it has to do with words and meaning. Calling someone a fascist for such matter is completely bananas and - frankly - disrespectful towards the people who died fighting the actual fascism. The CEO can be an idiot, or a tech bro, but he expressed his views and let others express theirs. This is pretty evident from their forum.