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Fixing the mistakes of leftist economic policies does not happen in a few months. It might be prudent not to vote in those people every x years.
So how exactly do you think the current administration will fix those mistakes?
If we're talking specifically about inflation, stricter monetary policy, currency changes Milei has suggested, lowering the deficit, free market policies (stopping price controls for instance) should fix the situation.
If these things are successfully implemented, it should lead to increased trust in the economy, which in turn will help everyone, poor the most.
What's to stop corporations from exploiting consumers if there are no price controls? Free Markets don't exist in our current world, especially not in any developed countries. Lowering the deficit? Okay. Sure. Just lower the deficit.
Do you know how to lower inflation? It's to raise interest rates until you force a recession. Increased trust in the economy? How do you know?
Competition is the main force. Of course things like ownership and other basic rights need to be enforced by the government. There are sometimes cases where the markets are working so badly that price controls might not be the worst option out there. But usually governments use it too easily, and for a known reason. Because it's the populist thing do: it gets them get votes with practically none of the responsibility of the mess they make.
This is one the main reasons why they remain on that stage instead of climbing to (or staying in) the 1st world. Because they don't have free markets. Bolstering free markets is what I believe Milei is trying to do.
I'm sorry, my Dude
Actual answer does not automatically mean right answer.
It's a Text-Book answer, I don't know what's not right here.
The question is "what will the current administration do", not "what is the textbook way"...
I cannot know what the current administration will actually try to do and even less what they will actually achieve, but Milei has certainly talked for all of the policies I've listed.
Well, that's an answer...
I suppose you claim to know what happens in the future?
Nope
Exactly. It reads as someone who doesn't understand what they wrote. And it's still not correct.
It's all good, I hide those things and Lemmy doesn't have The Algorithm anyway. At least yet.
It is certainly very early, but how long will we have to wait to evaluate their success or failure? Or will it be the typical "just one more term"?
Brexit was the perfect example of how this works: one direct policy change, clear predictions from experts what will happen, clear statements from EU, clear success/failure criteria (better trade deals, stronger economy). 7 years later if couldn't be clearer how complete failure it was but the party that did it is still going strong. Their excuse? The idea was right but the execution was flawed. Also it's still better then what the other party would have done.
It will be the same in Argentina. Whatever will happen they will simply claim they did the right thing, it's their opponents sabotaging their work that responsible for the failure, it would be even worse had they not done it, they are the only ones that can fix it. People expecting that everyone will just agree that what they did was stupid are delusional. It never happens.
That is a good question which I'm unable to answer. But I can be certain that a few months isn't enough. If by the end of Milei's full term things haven't improved, I can accept calling this a failure.
Which policies are you referring to?
Rinse and repeat every few years.
How are any of those policies Leftist in nature?
Please point out where I stated that.
you clearly blamed the inflation on leftist economic policies, then you listed a set of steps that have nothing to do with leftist politics.
So I didn't state that. Thanks for clarifying.
What a silly waste of time.
oh my mistake: you didn't say it was leftist policies. you came into a conversation where that was the topic, and listed a bunch of things that have nothing to do with leftist policy, and then refused to answer a question about their relevance.
that's what the discussion was. someone asked you about the relevance of your list to the discussion.
you could just delete the comments. most people probably haven't even seen it yet.
I'm not an economics guy, when you say "core issues haven't been fixed" what is meant by this?
They keep doing the same thing again and again without fixing anything.
Imagine you earn $5k a month, but you spend $10k a month. You will eventually run out of credit and will go into default then bankruptcy.
This is what Argentina is doing.
It's also what America is doing, but so far she is getting away with it, mostly because she can just keep printing as many dollars as she wants as it's the reserve currency and therefore easy to inflate away the debt.
And remember, every bit of inflation is spending power out of your pocket. Remember what $100 bought you ten years ago?
Keynesian economists think this is fine and you can just going like this forever (running a country isn't the same as running a household, duh!). Those people are idiots and apparently don't understand basic math, but unfortunately they are running the show right now.
Eventually the good times will stop. The results will be catastrophic when this happens. People will die and more wars will break out. Even first world countries will not be immune.
Only question is when. For both Argentina and America and everyone else.
Thanks for explaining that to me. I've heard the US can print money because they own the debt, or something to that effect.
So do you agree with the idea that Milei's austerity measures will work in the long run? If you do, is there historical precedent to guide that belief?
Probably not. The politics won't allow for it: everyone's thinking is short term and nobody cares about 10 years down the line. He will be blocked and sabotaged and removed before this gets to play out. Then the money printer will go brrrrrrrrrrrr
If it's allowed to stick, then yes, it should work in the long term, with some short to medium term pain. It's not impossible but it seems unlikely to work out that way. Maybe enough Argentinans with a long memory and basic math skills will allow it to happen. But don't count on it.
Similar to how an addict has to get off the drugs: hurts in the short term something fierce, then it gets better over time. Except here the drug is free money. Of course, many don't make it.
Every fiat currency has eventually failed. Going right back the Romans and probably before that. When the greedy idiots in charge learn they can print money seemingly without consequence, then they will print.
I still struggle to understand how you believe it "should work in the long term." I would like, but i understand if you dont have, some kind of example where these measures have worked before.
When you say basic math it makes me feel like I'm missing something.
First comment explained it very simple
Cool. I thought I might have missed something.
You can earn 5k and spend 10k if you get a pay rise of 5k next month
In practice they spend a few percent more than they take in taxes and grow by a little more or less than that. COVID was a big jump in real debt but other than that it's generally stable ish
It's not obviously unsustainable