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Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait (www.nysenate.gov)
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cross-posted from: https://ttrpg.network/post/4222671

Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait

Assembly Bill A8132 has been assigned a "Same As" bill in the Senate: S8586 [NYSenate.gov] [A8132 - 2023]

I don't own a gun, I never have and I don't plan to at any time in the future. But if these pass in the NYS Senate and Congress, it would be required to submit fingerprints for a background check then wait 15 days, before you could own any "COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL."

This isn't even going to stop any crimes from happening, for pity sakes regular guns end up in criminal charges all the time, regardless of background check laws. How about some real change and effective measures, rather then virtue-signaling and theater illusion for a constituency?

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[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

lol

And just imagine, you can make a shitty gun for 20 bucks using parts from the local hardware store.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

MacGyver was doing it before it was cool.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No he wasn't. MacGyver didn't like guns. This trope actually carried through to SG1.

Luckily, MacGyver did like explosives.

Regardless, this bill is stupid no matter how you look at it. Speaking as a 3d printer related business in NY. I will fight this lunacy.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Damn you're right. I actually forgot that. He did blow some stuff up though.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

He was exceptionally good at blowing things up! I loved the shit out of that show.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That won't make it through a metal detector

[–] Calcium5332@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Neither will 99% of 3D printed guns. Most 3D printed guns use metal parts, and ammo will likely be detected as well. Only single shot, entirely 3D printed guns with plastic ammo have any chance.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

99% of 3D printed guns

100% of 3D printed guns.

Barrels and chambers are quite difficult to 3D print. But springs strong enough to set off primers, cartridge casings, and bullets must be made of metal. You can get clever with all of the above, but a plastic bullet would be laughably ineffective and even if you're going to go with electrical rather than mechanical ignition to eliminate the springs you're going to need metal batteries, metal wires, metal switches...

It is functionally impossible to make an all-plastic firearm. You'd be better off making a Jörg Sprave style crossbow or something.

[–] Calcium5332@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Liberator is a completely 3D printed single-shot pistol that can shoot 9mm.

The Washbearis a completely 3D printed revolver.

3D printed ammo is currently in development.

They aren't very practical, but can likely go through metal detectors.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Except for the firing pins. And the ammo. So it's likely that they actually can't, unless the detectors at the facility in question are so detuned that they'd also allow through razors and small pocketknives.

Printed bullets would be like firing frozen paintballs at people. Injurious, yes. Deadly, most likely not.