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e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more

According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.

Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees -- 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.

Concerns about both candidates' ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden -- the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history -- was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240214133801/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

Part that drew my eye,

The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border -- with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.

More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden -- 44%-26% -- according to the poll.

So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn't seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically

Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Totally agree, and I don't have an answer. I am a filthy liberal so who I would want as president probably isn't who the nation wants.

Bernie is good but he has age issues as well.
Kamala is probably the only reasonable choice. She was vice president so she has the experience and she is an ok orator to my knowledge.

I haven't really paid much attention though to be honest. I want someone with AOC's politics leading the Democrats but that is never going to happen for lots of reasons.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

In fairness, if 2020 had fallen differently Warren could've done it. If Bernie had backed her as a VP candidate instead of running, there was a solid shot they could've beaten Biden. She actually was leading the betting odds for "president" when the 2024 campaign began.

Warren had the opposite of what the Clintons had. She was a constantly progressive voter who could rally the moderate vote of a Harvard-trained law professor with a no-nonsense mindset.

She was also Obama-level known (unknown to common voters, but known to people who paid attention) so there wasn't years of hate-news on her. The worst they could get was a true story about her having Native American ancestors that was intentionally blown out of proportion. That's some Tan Suit shit there.

[–] Linkandluke@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kamala would rally the right so hard if she was the candidate. Heck when Biden ran in 2020, him picking her as a running mate caused the right to freak out enough already. They started these huge conspiracies saying day one Biden would step down and hand the presidency to her. Which even amongst some of my peers, I heard. It's scary how conspiracy theories can spread.

Matter of fact, I wonder if reminding them of this point would have them be more skeptical for the next scheme...

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kamala was a tough-on-crime prosecutor. She might even be able to rally some of the right to vote for her.

Not sure that's saying something good about her, though.

[–] Linkandluke@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The right hates her. I can't understand why the right would hate a confident african american woman, enough to make up conspiracy theories about her.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You mean more than "she's a Democratic VP"? I wasn't aware of that. She seemed the most conservative-friendly candidate to me in 2020 except Bloomberg. Guess I wasn't aware of the particular hatred. I wonder why that could be. Surely not because she's both a minority and a woman.

[–] Linkandluke@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I know a few people in my red state, who didn't love Trump after his last year or so and were on the fence if they were going to vote for him or just sit 2020 out.

When Harris was selected for vp.. all a sudden it was the narrative of Biden might get sick or die and her become president. Which way unacceptable. Once that narrative took hold and swayed voters, they pushed it further to Biden was a puppet to her.. then they pushed it to he was going to step down day 1 to give her presidency.

It was dreadful.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting. I haved lived in and out of Purple areas in a deep-Blue state, so perhaps the Republicans here are a little less insane than the typical ones. Not surprised, really, just didn't realize

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

She was a successful prosecutor and da in a large city so she has some pretty "bad" history upholding the law and the war in drugs. But as others have said the right leaning voters should eat that shit up, of we lived in a world where it wasn't a big game.