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Oh look another "GOP are fascists" post! I get that you guys dont like those guys, but your group is more fascistic than there group.
Yeah trump and his cult are actually fascists. Don't know about the rest of the party but trump is, and so are several other major right-wing figures who are gaining too much ground worldwide. Look up Mussolini. Also learn the definition of fascism (it's not just authoritarianism you don't like)
"a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed"
STATE CONTROL
Well done, you have defined autocratic authoritarianism. Now define fascism. hint: it goes much further than that and is very definitely economically right wing and socially regressive
That's from a dictionary mr clever.
Fascism is more than just a right wing ideology. I am not a fan of Trump and his group, but the left wing side is the real fascistic danger, they just like to project.
You're right, fascism is more than just a right wing ideology. But it IS a right wing ideology, the left literally cannot be fascists. They can be fucking awful (and indeed are) but they are still better than the ACTUAL fascists that trump and his cult are
Then what would you call it when the left wing does the same thing?
Not fascism, but fascism requires the corporation stance that is symptomatic of the right
So then we are just arguing about the right word to use? So without using the F word, from my life, the left is the one that wants to take away my freedoms much more than the right side does. They are the one that will be the actual cause of the domestic strife when it probably will occure.
I'm guessing you're a white cis het male with some savings, then
Im guessing youre not and want to play the victim card. Please very specifically tell me what happens to a black vs white 18 year old that makes their success different.
The white person started with a hell of a lot less institutional and social crap in their way to success. If you want to know more please look up the definition of the word "privilege", and check yours while you're at it.
Oh, and I'm not looking to play any sort of victim card, I just hate fascists
Like I said, please be very specific on how a 18 year old black person would have a harder time than an 18 year old white person. I can give you some direct example of how they could have it easier, I need you to give specific examples.
The short answer is systemic racism. The long answer you're gonna have to look up on your own, but that should give you a good starting point. I'm not being paid to teach you and I don't care enough about you to do so for free.
Of course you actually know exactly what I'm talking about already and are actually just cat fishing, aren't you? Having looked at your profile, you're not actually very good at trolling are you?
I hear about systemic racism, but I never see what you are actually referring to, that is why I am asking for very direct example. If you cant give me a direct example that is fine, but since I can give you example of how it benefits them, then I dont know what you are talking about.
Have you looked? No? Didn't think so. I should not have to do this for you. Wait, I don't need to do this for you. Do a couple of basic searches and get back to me. Or better yet don't get back to me, just learn
The ones I have heard that you guys reference are a survey where they turned in resumes with black sounding names vs white sounding names, and then just quoting crime statistics. I have noticed how you are unable to give me an answer...
How so?
They totally feel it to be true, and they've been told their feelings are more valuable and true than actual facts.
crickets
For starters everything that happened with COVID.
I mean, you may have a point but you're being vague either intentionally or not I'm not sure.
Do you mean: vaccine mandates? mask mandates?
What exactly was fascistic about COVID?
I am referring to all the things that did that forced people to go along or be punish by the government or private government funded institutions.
There were no mask mandates federally I don't think. Most of those were instituted state-wide?
Vaccine mandates date back to 1800s in the US. However, I'm once again I'm left to my imagination.
I think I'd need some examples? Also, are those things fascist? Or are they government policies you disagree with?
The vaccine mandate that the president instituted using OSHA, would be the biggest thing of all, but the supreme court shot that down. Or that people couldnt work in most states due to the virus. That was done on the state level with guidance from the federal level, but was probably one of the most damaging things to happen in the country with no actual benefit. They took away all kinds of rights, and many times they well knew it was unconstitutional.
Hang on, so the president instituted a vaccine mandate but the supreme court shot it down. How's that fascist? I did mention that vaccine mandates aren't actually new.
If things are done at the state level isn't that dependent upon the state? How's that a blue thing? Were only blue states affected? Would you mind linking to any articles about this?
I mean I think removing Roe V Wade was far more damaging than any of that stuff. I thought seizing the supreme court was messed up.
He knew it wasnt legal but did it anyways. Forcing people to get a shot with no rational reason is forcing them to live how they do not want to. Lockdowns were not exclusively a blue thing, but were overwhelmingly done more in blue areas. Roe V Wade is the exact opposite of fascism because it decentralized power.
How do you believe the right is being more fascistic?