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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because opposition goes to the gulag?

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He founded a sub-party of the communist party, and according to the wiki you linked, their ideology was literally stalinism. How is that in any way oppositional to Stalin?

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Stalinism doesn’t exist, there is only Marxism-Leninism
  2. Many pro-market reformers were non-partisans, although some were in the CPSU
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stalinism is a subset of ML, as I learned from the wiki page you linked.

And OK, you're right, Stalin wasn't a brutal authoritarian leader because he allowed non partisans into a ML party that he created, and we'll just ignore the 1.7 million gulag deaths.

Actually, I'll do you a favor. You already know all the dead people under Stalin I'm going to bring up in this thread, so why don't you go ahead and just defend them all now and save us both some time?

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Stalin wasn’t a ‘Stalinist’ he was a Marxist-Leninist by word and action, most famous gulag prisoner Alexander Solzhenitsyn received treatment for cancer whilst in it, and vast majority returned alive. I don’t see how this is different to any other prison system in the world, just another piece of over-exaggerated Cold War propaganda for Western audiences.

I do agree this exchange is pointless, have a good rest of your day