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[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

the world is in decline and people want a strong man. i don't see why we don't give them one in the form a progressive. why can't the good guys wield an iron fist too? the problem has always been that good people are weak pacifists.

[–] VisualBuilder4@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think there is more to this. Far-Right (at least in Germany) goes along with more of a populistic communication. In my opinion the far-right promises easy solution to seemingly easy problems. But in the real world the problems are difficult and complex. There are few easy solutions and many nuances. But nuances are much more unsexy than populism. Also democracy in my opinion thrives from discourse and spreading the power. Not one person in command. But of course that’s more difficult for society to grasp than one single voice.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your sentiment, and here’s why I think it hasn’t yet happened - a strong progressive leader wouldn’t be beholden to the types of bribery and corruption commonly used to control political figures. So, the corporate media (primary benefactors of the bribe money via advertising dollars), never platforms emerging progressive candidates. One, because they don’t have unlimited PAC money to spend on ads, and two, because they’re afraid the progressive would overturn the apple cart and change the system which presently benefits them tremendously.

Just imagine how easily a strong progressive could get elected if given 24/7 free media coverage like Trump gets! They won’t get that though, so I think the answer is to organize - we have to choose the right candidate to win, and rally around them years in advance of an upcoming election to get enough grassroots momentum and fundraising in place to break through. No small task, but I’m hopeful this will happen in the next couple of election cycles due to the growing discontent as more people realize just how badly we’ve been screwed and lied to by the establishment.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

i certainly think that is one of many effective tools that should be in our progressive toolbox.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If VI Lenin was alive I'd write him in. Especially since Stalin isn't, so he can't repeat his worst mistake.

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

I think it's because the progressives don't have a unified front. It's hard to sell a potential "better tomorrow". It's a lot easier to get upset about things that are happening right now. That seems to be the essence of the conservative platform.