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I feel like we are ways out from seeing anything like it. From what I've seen non-Newtonian fluids typically take a decent amount of energy to stop something and sound wouldn't have much energy compared to something like a bullet.


On a sidenote does Decibullz own a patent on percussive hearing protection or am I looking up the wrong term? I feel like there must be other hearing protection out there that is effective against sudden loud sounds.

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Sudden" doesn't matter. "Loud" does.

I don't see how anything non-Newtonian would be better against sudden sounds. In fact it would be worse, as they'd get more solid and thereby transmit MORE of the noise you're trying to block out. Or maybe they only get more rigid but their sound transmission properties don't change at all. Either way, sounds somewhat pointless.

The only way I can think that something like this would work would be to have a molded vacuum chamber as an ear plug, with a specifically engineered sound transmission bridge inside. With too much energy trying to go through, it would break. But I doubt it would be quick enough to be effective, and they'd also be one time use, and extremely fragile.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks I think this was the answer I was looking for.

[–] CanadaPlus 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a bit oversimplified, actually. Sound bounces off of discontinuities in the medium, which is why foam works. You just have to control the scattering somehow.

The big problem with using oobleck or whatever is it responds to shear, and shear can't travel through air. You could use it for earthquake protection, though, or if you could channel compressive waves from the air into shear form using a fancy bridge like in OP.

Also, shear-thinning fluid is a thing too.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There are lots of strange options besides newtonian fluids. Would be interesting to see how dilatant, peusdoplastic, thixotropic etc react to sounds. Perhaps there is a way to make a material that allows quiet sounds to pass through and blocks all the loud ones. My guess is that dilatant liquids should be a good candidate.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A quick search tells me this have to do with shear forces. Sound would be entirely compressive, so those material properties would have no effect, or at least not change due to sound levels.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

That’s unfortunate. Just like OP, I would have really liked the idea of using a non-newtonian fluid to filter out certain types of sounds without using electricity. Well, I guess, we’re back to active noise canceling then.