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Many on the right claim the U.S. is being "invaded" by migrants but also want to wait until Donald Trump is elected president again to stop it.

For months, Republicans have shouted from the rooftops about a migrant crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border and how President Joe Biden needs to act to address it, insisting the flow of migrants is an urgent national security threat.

Now many on the right are urging their party to reject the very same things they said were needed to fix the problem, including tougher enforcement measures and a proposal to automatically shut down border crossings when it is overwhelmed. Instead, they appear set on impeaching the top Cabinet official in charge of the border, even though there is no evidence of a crime.

The GOP’s contortions aren’t just grating for Democrats but also on some conservative Republicans who have been deeply involved in crafting bipartisan legislation, which is expected to be unveiled soon, that would overhaul how migrants are processed at the border.

“It is interesting. Republicans four months ago... locked arms together and said, ‘We’re not going to give you money for this. We want a change in law,’” Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), the GOP’s lead negotiator on a deal pairing immigration changes with assistance to Ukraine and other allies, said on “Fox News Sunday.”

“A few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, ‘Oh, just kidding. I actually don’t want a change in law because it’s a presidential election year,’” he added.

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The United States cannot continue to absorb the equivalent of Sweden every 4-5 years.

Citation needed. You believe 10 million people, cross the border illegally every 5 years? You believe 2 million people illegally cross the border per year?

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if that number is accurate, that's 150 years to double our population. I'm not worried about it.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imma guess we never hear back because there's a 90% chance the "source" of this data is on an article that also talks about the great replacement theory.

The numbers I could find are that there's anywhere between 10 and 30 million undocumented workers in the US currently. (With the 30 million number being under heavy dispute).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undocumented_immigrant_population_of_the_United_States#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DA_2018_paper_by_three%2Cleading_to_vastly_overstated_results.?wprov=sfla1

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Imma guess we never hear back

Yeah, well, that's what you get for guessing.

there’s a 90% chance the “source” of this data is on an article that also talks about the great replacement theory.

Data source is Official CBP reports compiled during the Biden Administration.

You fuckers REALLY need to understand that it's 100% possible to recognize this is a problem without being a Republican, let alone a fucking MAGAtard.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Your data source is the number of encounters by the CBP which is not the same as the number of border crossings or individuals crossing the border.

If the same individual crosses the border twice in a year and is caught by the CBP they get counted as 2 encounters.

But yeah, I'm the idiot because I didn't consider the possibility that 2 million encounters does not mean 2 million different individuals.

You fuckers really need to figure out how stats and counting work before worrying about the swiss invasion.

If I'm someone waiting for title 42 access to the US and the boarder patrol kicks me out, guess where they are sending me? Right back to the encampment next to the boarder with other 42 refugees awaiting a determination on status. And guess what someone who is trying to break into the US will possibly do, multiple times, when they think they can get away with it?

Maybe ask yourself why the numbers shot up so aggressively after title 42 was implemented in 2020.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -1 points 10 months ago

Citation needed.

After literally years of discussion about US immigration you STILL haven't managed to find your way to any of the high quality and publicly available sources of information? Why are you even in here commenting if you're that uninformed?

Official CBP Website with easy to digest numbers.

Fully sourced and easy to understand graph at Statista.

You believe 2 million people illegally cross the border per year?...

Yeah, I do because those are the official numbers. If you want to believe something different then you're going to need to source it because your insinuation doesn't align with the data.