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[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I haven't read the article...yet (after a skim I agree with the article). I really don't know how to feel about the gay/trans issue as I'm fine with my kids being gay or trans, but I don't want anyone dictating to me what religion or philosophy I raise my kids with, so I feel like I shouldn't get to say what the nut jobs believe it what they tell their children (to a point)... This is tough

You aren't a parent are you? Cause children will actually hurt themselves badly, and really do need active care at an early age.

For older children setting boundaries for your children so they aren't assholes is "determining best interests".

I don't want people telling me what religion or philosophy to raise my kids in, I kind of think of this as parents rights. Of course as kids get to be adults those go away.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

There's limits to this. If someone's philosophy/religion says you should abuse your children then the state should intervene. We shouldn't accept parents rights to beat, bully, stone, drug, cripple, deprive them an education, deprive them of social interactions etc. Many of these things are represented in literature related to many major religions.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I shouldn’t get to say what the nut jobs believe it what they tell their children

Verbal abuse and other forms of damage parents can enact by just "saying what they believe" are a mental health hazards. We as a society came to an agreement that parents don't have the "liberty" of aggravating health issues on their kids. No one is forbidding parents from teaching kids to be creationists, but a kid suffering with gender dysphoria needs care and parents don't have the right to deny that care.

So the "(to a point)" is the crucial bit here, and it's exactly that point where this discussion is centered.