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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess he’s talking about the Usenet, a way to get your warez via direct download from a Usenet provider. This makes it possible to pirate legally with blazing fast speed (like 5 to 10 min for 4k movies) and with the right Indexers, you can find any release existing in predb 😎

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel like I've always missed something with Usenet. Like I don't fully understand it. I understand what newsgroups were back in the day I think - basically forums hosted by your ISP and people broke files into segments to spread them across posts or whatever, then you'd combine them and have a file. These would be super fast because it's over your link to your ISP, but I don't get how it's still alive and well and not taken down.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Attentions oversimplified:

The usenet is a network of servers in which each has file snippets that have a ID. All the servers sync their file snippet database so that all servers have all the snippets (some prune older snippets).

You then make a subscription at one of of those server provider and are then allowed to download those snippets.

Your downloader gets a map with the info which snippets to get and how to add them to get a file

Those maps (NZBfiles) you get from indexers (preferably private ones), similar as it is with torrents.

The usenet was created and used to fight censorship in 1980 only intended for text at first, but later it was discovered, that one can use this protocol for file sharing as well. It is hard to take down because of it’s decentralized design.

It is like the the prehistoric blockchain, lol

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 10 months ago

Because they'd have to take down every mirror, and that's a daunting task, as I understand it.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Legally? 🤔

Or do you mean to say that a VPN isn't strictly required?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Not legally, but I never use a VPN for newsgroup downloads.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Yes, downloading aka receiving copyright protected stuff is not illegal in my country, only the act of sharing aka uploading copyright protected stuff in order that it is available for other people, is illegal. You are even allowed to share copyright protected stuff with your "close circle of friends" And that is why we don’t need a vpn to download from the usenet