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Do you believe in meritocracy? Why or why not? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 10 months ago by Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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This is the definition I am using:

a system, organization, or society in which people are chosen and moved into positions of success, power, and influence on the basis of their demonstrated abilities and merit.

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[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No.
“American Dream,” was built on belief where workplaces are meritocratic environments where workers, regardless of their background, can, on merit and abilities overcome any deprived situation they may find themselves in and rise above.

Just like communism when the Wall fell, I think it's safe to say this ideology, when tried and tested, has been proven a total and complete failure.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "American dream" was based on a much earlier (and just as false and terrible) idea of manifest destiny.

Also, communism has never been achieved for it to have failed:
https://medium.com/international-workers-press/misconceptions-about-communism-2e366f1ef51f

[–] AstroTechie@lemdro.id 0 points 10 months ago

For practical purposes it failed. If every attempt to achieve it failed then it's just a failure.

If you follow the subjective "it was never really achieved for it to fail" logic then anyone can claim nothing ever fails.

Meritocracy and the American dream didn't fail, we just never achieved it for it to fail then?