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[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Are there any online collectives that work together to stop this tomfoolery?

Same as it has been for the last 100 years: Vote with your money. If you don't like the product/service, don't buy it. Stop thinking you can force them to change their offering.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Vote with your money.

I really hate this phrase. It basically is saying that if you have more money then you have more "votes".

Or to put it in another way: If you have more money you matter more.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Its the internalized version of our capitalistic autocracy, akin to stockholm syndrome.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it is but it just irks me either way.

Edit:

I just want to clarify I am agreeing that in our current society that if you have more money you tend to be highly valued.

I am not agreeing that this is how it should be.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The crackhead down the road wasting away in his own piss and shit isn't equally "valuable" to me or anybody that contributes to society in a positive manner. I don't care how you spin it

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Eh, found the right guy that needs to spin an unrelated argument so he can purposefully miss and derail the point.

[–] diyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It basically is saying that if you have more money then you have more “votes”.

That’s simply true. It doesn’t do anyone any good to disregard the facts.

Or to put it in another way: If you have more money you matter more.

That abstraction doesn’t help much. And first of all, it’s more accurate to derive the statement “If you have more money then you have more influence”.

It’s still a shitty status quo, but it is what it is. The worse thing you can do is tell people not to boycott shit products on the basis of rejecting reality. It’d be like telling people not to vote in elections because their vote is a drop in the ocean.

Some people vote for democrats, then they cancel their own vote by getting their internet service from Spectrum, buying fuel from Chevron for their car, shipping their packages using FedEx, getting their phone service from AT&T, banking at PNC Bank, flying on Boeing planes, shopping on Amazon, doing their web searches on a Microsoft syndicate’s site (e.g. DDG), buying Sony devices.. etc. They either have no clue that most of their voting is actually for the republicans, or they think that drop-in-the-ocean vote that comes once in 4 years somehow carries more weight than the daily votes they cast with reckless disregard.

Greg Abbott’s war chest is mostly fed by oil companies. If you buy fuel for a car, you help Greg Abbott and other republicans. And if you buy from Chevron, you give the greatest support to republicans (Chevron is an ALEC member).

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

It’s still a shitty status quo, but it is what it is.

I don't like the status quo and I think it should change.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

If you have more money, that means that society values you more. Thus you matter more. You're just a better human being when you have more money.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 10 months ago

Great idea. Next we leave countries that become autocracies.

Na fam. First the autocrats burn.

[–] vasco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Same as it has been for the last 100 years: Vote with your money. If you don’t like the product/service, don’t buy it. Stop thinking you can force them to change their offering.

Oh yeah, it is * S.U.P.E.R * effective /sarcasm