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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The “unreliable, shaky” US supplied about the same amount of military help as the rest of the world. Without US Ukraine will lose the war, unless all other countries increase their support by more than twice.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

And there's about a 50% chance that in a year's time they will do a 180 and pull all support from Ukraine and start actively working with Russia. That's why they're a shaky ally.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Great for Ukraine, but A) Half the active US electorate currently supports a Putin simp, which may likely lead to schizophrenic geopolitics sooner than later, and B) I don't want my country to get dragged into another 20 years war at an irrelevant part of the world with no clear goal or purpose because my ally was attacked by the people they've continued antagonizing for decades, and they decided to overreact in response due to spurious interests. So yeah, pretty much any sane and well informed person will want their country to be able to protect their own sovereignity without US help, and as it turns out, that's an option for EU countries, provided we actually work on it.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

irrelevant part of the world

Ukraine grows a lot of grain. If the countries it exports grain to don't get that grain, millions starve. Starvation will greatly contribute to regional instability in already fragile states. We've already seen a series of coups in Africa and if Ukraine and Russia keep fighting, we will see more and more of them, each one more violent and desperate than the rest. We've seen millions of refugees from Syria before, get ready to see a hundred million in the years to come.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I meant the occupation of Afghanistan. You can see in my post above that I support the defense of Ukraine.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Oh I'm sorry. Yeah, Afghanistan is a place where both empires and dreams go to die. My father in law fought in Soviet-Afghan war and hasn't stopped drinking since.