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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yet somehow every version is a totalitarian clusterfuck.

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. That is not an a known issue with anarchism, for example.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many anarchist countries do you know?

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Off the top of my head, 2. One with no UN seat and one long gone, to be fair, but they still exist and are/were sovereign. You can't say either turned into totalitarianism.

Maybe you could say they would have or will, but that's just your guess. I could say the same thing about liberal democracy and be equally as well supported.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So what are these magical countries?

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Republican Spain and the "Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria" AKA Rojava.

Republican Spain had some communist factions too, but Rojava is explicitly built around a specific strain of anarchism, and is an "administration" instead of a government. I doubt it looks very anarchist in practice, but that's neither here nor there, and they're democratic enough the US has endorsed them in the past to Turkey's great displeasure.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Republican Spain was a military faction in a Spanish Civil War, not a country.

Rojava is Kurdish separatist group, not a country.

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Bullshit. They have flags, bureaucracies and a monopoly on the use of force within their territory. I will not argue semantics with you.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ISIS also has a flag, bureaucracy and a monopoly on the use of force. Doesn't make them a country. If you don't have arguments, you should not start arguing in the first place.

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Actually, I'd say it made them a country, back before they lost all their territory.

I'm not sure what the exact term we use has to do with the fate of socialist systems anyway, so I won't reduce myself to arguing about it. If you don't have anything else, I think we're done here.