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In a matchup between Biden and Trump, many young voters say they might choose silence.

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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll vote 3rd parties when we implement RCV or STV, until then it just supports the greater evil.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

When both candidates are too evil to vote for then this is the rational choice. Your vote is counted and so people see it when they look. Many minor parties have gotten everything they want without ever winning - when the vote margin between you and an opponent is just a few percent, attracting those who care enough too vote for a third party makes a loss into a win.

Sure other voting systems give more power to other votes, but you still get power.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you consider Biden too evil to vote for, I don't know what to tell you, He's been one of the best presidents we've had recently and the resurgence of unions we're experiencing is thanks to him.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’s one of the best presidents we’ve had recently

Considering his cohort I don’t think that’s saying much. We’ve had a lot of shitty presidents. Most of them, actually.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

You can tell the terrible ones because they have an R next to their name. Clinton, Obama, and Biden have all been at the very least inoffensive and reasonable.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Oh, wait, that wasn't a sarcastic joke?

Damn.

Well, I guess if that's been going on for decades at least it's a vote that can be safely discounted. Also no, it won't make a difference. At least not in the US. The math of it is demonstrably that it won't make a difference, especialy if you do it repeatedly. As the guy above said, you change the system so that it makes a difference first (which you may or may not get to via voting) and THEN it'll make a difference. Until then it's just performative absenteeism. Unless you are not in the US and instead live in a parlamentarian proportional system, in which case carry on.