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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This was verified by a number of independent researchers. 60 Minutes even did a full segment on it.

[–] markon@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but they're just distracting from the domestic surveillance that is oppressively bad. I've never seen a compelling argument TikTok is somehow more dangerous to use than Facebook. At least for a US Citizen with no family in China. But you go out explaining how you'll assassinate Xi on any platform they could send somebody to take you out. Anyone who trusts any company or government with their data is naive.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I think it's more in that each platform has their differences as far as consumption, and possible behavior setting/modification, in which they're both detrimental. It's not secret that algorithms are used to keep the user engaged, and that so-called ragebait is a huge engagement driver. Facebook is somewhat of a link aggregator meets microblogging (ie status updates), while tiktok just feeds an endless loop of short videos. I would imagine (though I don't have stats or sources) that videos keep people glued to their screens more effectively (easier than reading), and could be more troubling.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This user is a troll, so you can safely ignore them

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

calling people names is not the same as disapproving their claims

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not interested in your opinion

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the problem. You gave it anyway without considering that it would be impossible for me to care any less

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago

do you need help finding the block button?

[–] norbert@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're better off pointing out where they said inaccurate things than just saying "troll!"

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look at their comment history

[–] norbert@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't see any overly trolly comments. What'd they say?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

They have over -2000 karma and I've seen them in a multitude of threads just snidely contradicting whatever the common opinion is

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From what I can see, it seems like their opinions go against the grain of the Lemmy userbase. They don't seem to be intentionally antagonizing people.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, normal people have negative thousands of karma. Thanks for the gaslighting brah

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think you don't really grasp the concept of a hivemind, where users of a platform tend to have collective set of views deemed acceptable and unacceptable by the community. It doesn't necessarily make them wrong, it just means that it is a view or opinion that runs contrary to that of the community. Reddit was a shit show for that (and I know you came from there due to your use of karma), and Lemmy has it too. The entire purpose of the up vote/downvote system is to increase/decrease comment ranking based on users perception of comment quality, though people tend to use it to show disapproval (as you did with my previous comment). There is no "normal' when it comes to this, as it is entirely dependent on the instance and subcommunity's collective views.

Furthermore, let me introduce you to the actual definition of gaslighting, per Merriam Webster:

1 : psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator
2 : the act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for one's own advantage

Now, in what way did I gaslight you?