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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The world stage was not nearly as volatile in 2016 as it is now, and Trump, who did manage to gut much of the US government legally at the time (Supreme Court, EPA, FCC, Education, Labor, Agriculture, Transportation, etc), was not at that point declaring he would go full dictator like he is now. He wasn’t on trial for being a literal insurrectionist and traitor against our democracy at that point. Like I said, it’s a very different election. I don’t like Biden, but I do like the idea that Biden can be legally voted out of power, and then the next president can also, legally be voted out of power. Trump’s goal is that he cannot be legally voted out of power, to the point that his militia will try to murder anyone that makes an effort to remove him from unlawful power.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Here's the big problem: Democrats have refused to fix it even when they were in power. Because it benefits them. The Democrats with Obama had full control of everything before 2016. Obama and Biden could have prevented this but they didn't.

Democrats purposely didn't encode any rights such as abortion. All so they can keep saying "Oohhh look at the other scary side, keep voting for us Democrats! You can't vote third party this time they will take your abortions away!".

Unless Americans start waking up to these extremely obvious forced scare tactics that the Democrats themselves hold in stand, nothing will ever change. And Genocide has to be the line at which you say "holy shit this is too far". The end do not justify the means anymore if the means include genocide.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

And you think the answer is to make it worse? To see if we can have an even bigger civil war?

Fuck off.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so you are opting for a forced revolution, because my position of trying to prevent fascism isn’t the solution, and your position of voting for another candidate will allow the us to enter a civil war period. That’s fine, but you have to mop up the blood. A revolution or civil war in the US is likely inevitable, but you’re an accelerationist, claiming a position within the existing system with the interests of forcing the system to end

For more information:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

You aren't trying to prevent fascism by voting for Genocide Joe who is trying to start WW3. You are endorsing and enabling fascism and supporting Nazism.